US-Mexico Immigration Agreement

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  1. Fais

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    Has anyone looked at this? If we can "rapidly" deport all illegal immigrants to Mexico and let them deal with it. Thats pretty big.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/06/07/rea...-immigration-that-averted-trumps-tariffs.html

    U.S.-Mexico Joint Declaration

    The United States and Mexico met this week to address the shared challenges of irregular migration, to include the entry of migrants into the United States in violation of U.S. law. Given the dramatic increase in migrants moving from Central America through Mexico to the United States, both countries recognize the vital importance of rapidly resolving the humanitarian emergency and security situation. The Governments of the United States and Mexico will work together to immediately implement a durable solution.

    As a result of these discussions, the United States and Mexico commit to:

    Mexican Enforcement Surge

    Mexico will take unprecedented steps to increase enforcement to curb irregular migration, to include the deployment of its National Guard throughout Mexico, giving priority to its southern border. Mexico is also taking decisive action to dismantle human smuggling and trafficking organizations as well as their illicit financial and transportation networks. Additionally, the United States and Mexico commit to strengthen bilateral cooperation, including information sharing and coordinated actions to better protect and secure our common border.

    Migrant Protection Protocols

    The United States will immediately expand the implementation of the existing Migrant Protection Protocols across its entire Southern Border. This means that those crossing the U.S. Southern Border to seek asylum will be rapidly returned to Mexico where they may await the adjudication of their asylum claims.

    In response, Mexico will authorize the entrance of all of those individuals for humanitarian reasons, in compliance with its international obligations, while they await the adjudication of their asylum claims. Mexico will also offer jobs, healthcare and education according to its principles.

    The United States commits to work to accelerate the adjudication of asylum claims and to conclude removal proceedings as expeditiously as possible.

    Further Actions

    Both parties also agree that, in the event the measures adopted do not have the expected results, they will take further actions. Therefore, the United States and Mexico will continue their discussions on the terms of additional understandings to address irregular migrant flows and asylum issues, to be completed and announced within 90 days, if necessary.

    Ongoing Regional Strategy

    The United States and Mexico reiterate their previous statement of December 18, 2018, that both countries recognize the strong links between promoting development and economic growth in southern Mexico and the success of promoting prosperity, good governance and security in Central America. The United States and Mexico welcome the Comprehensive Development Plan launched by the Government of Mexico in concert with the Governments of El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras to promote these goals. The United States and Mexico will lead in working with regional and international partners to build a more prosperous and secure Central America to address the underlying causes of migration, so that citizens of the region can build better lives for themselves and their families at home.
     
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  4. Samassi Abou

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    To be fair, it’s completely possible that Trump didn’t even know that they’d already agreed to those measures.
     
  5. Fais

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    Regardless of the politics of it, its was a win.
     
  6. Czer

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    Dems Accuse Trump of Concocting Standoff With Mexico When Agreement Was Reportedly Reached Months Ago
    The key accomplishments in the agreement with Mexico Trump claims everyone is ‘very excited’ about were reportedly already agreed upon when he threatened to unleash tariffs.
    06.08.19

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/dems-...n-agreement-was-reportedly-reached-months-ago

    President Donald Trump insisted Saturday that everyone was “very excited” about the immigration deal with Mexico that resulted from his days-long standoff and threats of tariffs— but Democrats and officials cited by The New York Times have suggested there was never any need for a standoff to begin with.

    “Everyone very excited about the new deal with Mexico!” the president tweeted Saturday morning, adding: “Mexico will try very hard, and if they do that, this will be a very successful agreement for both the United States and Mexico!”

    Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin told Reuters the deal would “fix the immigration issue.”

    After preventing tariffs of 5 percent from taking effect with the agreement late Friday, the Trump administration has heralded the deal as a hard-fought victory in the battle against immigration, presenting one of the major accomplishments of the deal as Mexico’s decision to deploy its National Guard throughout the country to stem the flow of migrants heading for the U.S. border. According to the State Department, Mexico has also agreed to expand a program under which U.S. asylum-seekers stay in that country while their cases are heard in U.S. courts.

    Those two wins in Trump’s immigration fight ostensibly resulted from the president’s threats of steadily increasing tariffs on imports from Mexico, which the White House said would begin at 5 percent on Monday and climb each month until the “illegal immigration problem” was “remedied” by Mexican authorities taking action.

    Officials cited by the Times on Saturday, however, said both those key components of the agreement were actually agreed upon months ago. The Mexican government had already promised then-Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen in March to deploy its National Guard, and the arrangement to expand the program to have U.S. asylum-seekers stay in Mexico was agreed upon in diplomatic negotiations last December, according to the Times.

    Trump’s social media victory lap over the deal on Saturday also included his claim, in all capital letters, that “MEXICO HAS AGREED TO IMMEDIATELY BEGIN BUYING LARGE QUANTITIES OF AGRICULTURAL PRODUCT FROM OUR GREAT PATRIOT FARMERS!” But three Mexican officials cited by Bloomberg late Saturday said that was never part of the agreement and the Mexican government had never agreed to such a condition. No mention of agricultural products was made in the State Department’s press release outlining the terms of the agreement.

    Democrats have accused the president of manufacturing a conflict with Mexico when there was never one to begin with. Presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg dismissed the deal as a “face saving maneuver” to prevent the implementation of tariffs that were unpopular even among the president’s own party. Fellow candidate Beto O’Rourke—a former U.S. representative from a district on the southern border—said Trump was attempting to be “both the arsonist who created this problem in the first place and the firefighter who wants credit for addressing it.”

    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi blasted the president for using “threats and temper tantrums” to negotiate, “undermin[ing] America’s preeminent leadership role in the world by recklessly threatening to impose tariffs on our close friend and neighbor to the south.” And Sen. Chuck Schumer sarcastically called the president’s announcement of the deal “an historic night!”

    @realDonaldTrump has announced that he has cut a deal to “greatly reduce, or eliminate, Illegal Immigration coming from Mexico and into the United States,” he tweeted. “Now that that problem is solved, I’m sure we won’t be hearing any more about it in the future.”
     
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    Big Donnie shitting on libcucks
     
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  9. Czer

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    Trump Either Lied or Got Played on the Mexico Deal
    June 8, 2019

    https://washingtonmonthly.com/2019/06/08/trump-either-lied-or-got-played-on-the-mexico-deal/

    On Saturday, I wrote that Trump was oddly gloating about his own retreat from brinksmanship with Mexico over trade and immigration. Having taken the world economy hostage in support of white supremacy, he either had to pull the trigger or back down. Best case scenario, he might have extracted real concessions from a more responsible partner at the cost of turning the United States into an unreliable world pariah.

    Well, now it appears that the supposed concessions Trump got from Mexico in exchange for his hostage-taking were either refused or had been agreed to long ago.

    Friday’s joint declaration says Mexico agreed to the “deployment of its National Guard throughout Mexico, giving priority to its southern border.” But the Mexican government had already pledged to do that in March during secret talks in Miami between Kirstjen Nielsen, then the secretary of homeland security, and Olga Sanchez, the Mexican secretary of the interior, the officials said.

    The centerpiece of Mr. Trump’s deal was an expansion of a program to allow asylum-seekers to remain in Mexico while their legal cases proceed. But that arrangement was reached in December in a pair of painstakingly negotiated diplomatic notes that the two countries exchanged. Ms. Nielsen announced the Migrant Protection Protocols during a hearing of the House Judiciary Committee five days before Christmas.

    In some cases, the Trump administration tried to secure concessions and failed:

    And over the past week, negotiators failed to persuade Mexico to accept a “safe third country” treaty that would have given the United States the legal ability to reject asylum seekers if they had not sought refuge in Mexico first.

    That means one of two things: either Trump knew that all these supposed concessions were mere window dressing already agreed to long ago—and he lied to the country and especially his base about them—or he didn’t know and got played.

    Of course, the president’s staff and advisers would have known, which means they also either went along with the charade to deceive Trump or were willing and silent participants in Trump’s dishonest gloating about the deal.

    Either way, Trump threatened the global economy with catastrophe and got nothing from it. And now he’s celebrating, and his conservative media allies are doing their best to support the facade of success.
     
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    Turns Out That The Bulk Of The Deal With Mexico Was Agreed To Ages Before Tariff Threat
    June 8, 2019

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/deal-mexico-tariffs-border-immigration

    Most of the concessions that President Donald Trump extracted from Mexico in exchange for withholding his threatened tariffs were offered months before the most recent showdown, according to the New York Times.

    Though Trump is celebrating the deal as a major win for him, Mexico had already pledged to up its national guard presence in March and to rework the asylum policy in December. In fact, Trump’s negotiators failed to get Mexican officials to agree to a “safe third country” policy that would allow the United States to oust asylum seekers who had not first sought refuge in Mexico.

    Trump was facing overwhelming disapproval from both parties over his threatened tariffs, with his usually loyal Republican contingent threatening a veto-proof vote to nullify his national emergency declaration out of retribution.
     
  11. Grandasaur Egg

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    Lololol it’s such a big win that he’s claiming that Mexico made Sekret agreements, calling into CNBC angry about coverage, and making more tariff threats on Twitter (thus continuing to harm his own constituency of corn and potato peasant farmers)
     
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    Classic statemanship!
     
  13. Sear

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    Sounds like some bigtime libcucks are mad at Trump winning, as usual. Sad!
     
  14. Kilinitic

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    What did it say
     
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    -Slaves are provided with food and shelter. Necessities of living.
    -Slaves are given a purpose and are productive to society instead of burdens on the state.
    -Slaves enjoy the better more modern life provided to them instead of the harsh life in the African wilderness.
     
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  18. Fais

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    Pretty much this, even if you weren't being serious :).
     
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    * Slaves have the love and companionship of their owner. Especially female slaves. Even if they don't want it!
     
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    The actual argument was that people care more for their property than they do for rentals. The slave was property while employees were rentals. The argument would have held more weight back then, because there were no unions, and employees were mostly working blue collar jobs in terrible conditions. It was still a bad argument, but that was one of the main defenses.