Tech Career Advice Thread

Discussion in 'Tech Heads' started by Utumno, Nov 12, 2018.

  1. Utumno

    Utumno Administrator Staff Member

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    Just starting this off as a place to solicit ideas and give advice.
     
  2. Bailon

    Bailon TZT Neckbeard

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    Fuck tech, dig ditches. The world needs more holes.
     
  3. Utumno

    Utumno Administrator Staff Member

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    I'm actually going to dump a bunch of thoughts/ideas here. I'm interested in what our other professional nerds have to add as well.
     
  4. AgelessDrifter

    AgelessDrifter TZT Neckbeard Lord

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    I second Sear's web dev recommendation. Learn some CSS, some javascript, throw in some D3

    baby, you got yourself a stew
     
  5. Czer

    Czer I'm a poor person. The lambo is my cousin's.

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    when anyone talks to me about manual labor or retail/sales/vocational jobs, even most assistant type work, I give a really dark paul bunyan type of example of the current place we are technologically

    the individual with their amazing machine that's just simply better than the best person is coming

    like.. pre Multivac area, right before it
     
  6. Czer

    Czer I'm a poor person. The lambo is my cousin's.

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    I know very little web dev stuff, but I know how to read through HTML.

    I know HTML syntax, CSS syntax, no javascript off hand, what's D3

    This is why I said in the other thread not to confuse people asking for basics about IT

    Sanaleb was talking about being a script engineer, which is basically QA, regression testing etc

    You won't do QA, and to be clear, QA in a software environment is completely different than a QA engineer in a physical production environment, obviously.

    So let's talk about entry point knowledge instead of end points
     
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  7. Bailon

    Bailon TZT Neckbeard

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    Yeah, I basically fear at this point that if I lose my job, my next employment will be a greeter at Walmart if I am lucky. Currently, I am basically an admin / personal assistant.
     
  8. Utumno

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    I think entry point advice is a good way to look at this thread for starters... it's way too broad otherwise.

    It's also interesting to me because I want to get at least one of my kids into tech, and I'm bouncing ideas in my brain on how to introduce them to it. Only my older kid shows any interest so far.
     
  9. Agrul

    Agrul TZT Neckbeard Lord

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    time to throw out the younger one
     
  10. Utumno

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    he's mentioned wanting to be a teacher. i think that would suit him well actually and i hope he means it. i don't actually think we're going to go full matrix and i do believe teachers will always be needed (next 50 years at least)
     
  11. Utumno

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    there's also some nice tech-proof trades... hairdresser, plumber, electrician immediately come to mind.
     
  12. Utumno

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    oh and art-history majors. can never have enough of those.
     
  13. Czer

    Czer I'm a poor person. The lambo is my cousin's.

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    electrician and plumber can easily be replaced by machines, especially electrician, cabling for new buildings is usually alongside electricity, when you are building server rooms/farms you have to calculate electrical and AC costs, work with the electricians/hvac to make sure they install the right everything

    i've had to go out with city electricians and explain certain things on location

    there will be no vocational jobs, or so greatly reduced by efficiency from technology it won't be accessible
     
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  14. Sear

    Sear TZT Neckbeard Lord

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    I wasted 9 credit hours on art history. File it under [useless knowledge with no applicable utility] taking up space in my brain next to Everquest item stats.

    I'll talk mostly about web design/dev here because it's what I know. That said, I think you have to go with what calls to you if you want to keep your motivation high enough to pursue it. I did a Cisco cert for networking while I was working full-time and I damn near quit because I fucking hated it (my brother-in-law loves that shit tho). On the flip side of the coin, I found it effortless to learn SQL wasting entire weekends messing with EQEmu databases/code. I think it's important to frame new material in a way that interests you when you're pushing yourself to learn something on top of full-time work. That's not going to be easy so make it easier on yourself any way you can.

    Anyhow, for graphic design I actually got my feet wet thanks to photoshopping dumb shit on this board. Most logos are just basic shapes and type arranged in an original way. Technically speaking, the barrier to entry is low.

    W3 (https://www.w3schools.com/html/html_responsive.asp) is the best resource for learning html/css/etc. Click "try it yourself" on anything and you can mess with the code in real-time. You can see there's not all that much that goes on under the hood for visually-striking websites that non-IT people think look like magical hot shit created by a wizard.

    You can write/edit code in something as basic as Notepad, but I always used this: https://notepad-plus-plus.org/download/v7.6.html. Code can be tested locally (make a folder on your computer and save your html/css/image files there) by opening it in your browser.

    This is a decent stripped-down look into graphic design process:



    You're just manipulating shapes/type to evoke a feeling. Using TZT as a example, my first thought is always establishing some general description of what kind of feeling matches the identity. TZT would have to be a bit chaotic and rough, but it's also a community so I'd want to represent that visually as well. The troll is already an identifiable mark, so that would need to be integrated (and likely simplified to just a circle or two) into the logo. Maybe I do just the head kind of looming over the "TZT" letters, but visually holding them together in a sense. Typeface would need to be rough or hard-edged. I'd probably use the old lime green/dark purple color scheme or a gold/blue EQ one. Something like that could work as a starting point.

    I find that less is more with the visual relationships. For the "troll holding the letters together", I would want to only imply that in a subtle/stylized way. Take it too literally and then it looks like a crappy logo for a garage band.

    I'm going into too much detail and should mention that these are two different fields (designer and developer), but they often work in parallel especially with web-based work.
     
  15. Chemosh

    Chemosh TZT Addict

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    I've been tinkering with react lately and it's been an eye opener. It's what Facebook is built on
     
  16. Sear

    Sear TZT Neckbeard Lord

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  17. Red

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    Halp computah
     
  18. Czer

    Czer I'm a poor person. The lambo is my cousin's.

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    So the first thing about IT is it's not about how much you know... it's how able you are to critical think/troubleshoot quickly... are you willing to learn and do you like to figure stuff out?

    The things you need to know in Desktop support:

    Microsoft, know it, love it

    Mac OS, know it, it's nice, it's not hard to deal with (learn the mac command prompt calls that you would use in windows)

    Linux, comprehend it, it's complicated, understand the basics required in the setting you are in (you normally are not going to be doing a lot of troubleshooting on individuals with Linux computers) (learn the linux command line calls that you would use in windows)

    SCCM (Microsoft's System Configuration Center Manager)
    Active Directory
    Exchange (not everyone is using aws/azure)
    Jamf is used often by Mac heavy networks

    all of this stuff is extremely easy, you could learn it all in a week


    You can make 70k easily just knowing that stuff
     
  19. Czer

    Czer I'm a poor person. The lambo is my cousin's.

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    like there is a job in LA that pays 40hr for watching database servers using splunk, all you need to know is basic sql syntax, if you see problems pass them over to the database engineer

    that's almost 80k before taxes
     
  20. Utumno

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    all the SQL syntax I know is through googling on how to do certain things and taking notes. it's enough to keep TZT backend db running anyway lol