So Czer is ISIS really just a Saudi front created to mess w/Iran?

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    Have you ever been to Iran
     
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    No chance, I worked on military projects in my 20s and shit went down hill geopolitically and now there is an outright ban, you used to have to go through the pakistani embassy to plan it. I've dated girls born there and moved here when they were older, a kurdish iranian as well.

    I've talked to every type of iranian/persian you can imagine. Israeli persians, people who served in the iran iraq war, Bahais who had to escape, people's whos families fought in MEK, persian Jews who hate and persian jews who support the country. Secular shia who live here but still love the homeland. Poly persian models who are crazy.

    My ultimate experience leads me to avoid most diaspora persians and traveling is a no in the current world.
     
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    Also just recently only individuals born to iranian men were iranian. Meaning if only your mother was iranian you were not recognized as an iranian by Iran. Iran doesnt acknowledge an iranians citizenship to another country when in Iran and you can be pulled into the overall military if they so decided.

    They passed a law within the last two weeks changing the birth right to being Iranian, allowing women to pass along the trait.

    Iran has been patriarchal since the inception of the median empire.
     
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    Russian news showing off one of the abandoned US bases, this one is in Manbij

     
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    Blue is how far Turkey has actually reached, red shows the route the Syrian army has taken to block Turkey and take over major cities as of the 18th

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    Russia isn't going to tolerate the Turkish safe zone and is now pushing on Idlib while the FSA is busy trying to fight the Kurds in the north east

    Syria will take the entire country back

     
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    Iran won't let the Kurds be massacred, they sent in an Artesh tank -division- (((NOT IRGC))) into northern Iraq to protect the Kurds when ISIS first started expanding.

    They are an Iranian people like the Persians and Pashtun, however Pashtun are tough as the land they live in same goes for Persians. Kurds unfortunately live mainly in the pastoral plains to the west of the Iranian plateau.

    Those sad little mountains are the Kurds homes, not the much more eastern hazardous mountains where the Persians and Pashtun live.
     
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    Kurds have received a jolt of lightning after having Syria/Russia/Iran back them up instead of the US

    They feel much more confident striking Turkey



     
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    Why Would Russia, China—and Iran—Plan Joint Naval Exercises?
    Trump’s chaotic policies are leading to strategic recalculations in and around the oil-rich Persian Gulf. Israel may help defend Saudi Arabia. Russia and China could defend Iran.
    10.21.19

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/why-would-russia-chinaand-iranplan-joint-naval-exercises

    KARACHI, Pakistan—The waters around the Arabian Peninsula have calmed for the moment, but preparations for combat continue, with joint exercises and security conferences showing just how profoundly the region’s strategic balances are shifting.

    As confidence declines in U.S. President Donald J. Trump’s ability to navigate the difficult moral and military choices in the region, new players are entering the picture in and around the Persian Gulf.

    An Israeli delegation attended a U.S.-backed maritime-security conference that began Sunday in Manama with delegations from Saudi Arabia and Bahrain as a vast international maritime exercise, IMX 19, got under way in the Persian Gulf. Planning involved as many as 22 countries.

    The exercise is an annual affair that began in 2012 under the Obama administration, but took on a different coloration after the Iranian-backed attack on Saudi Arabia’s main oil-processing facility on Sept. 14. When Trump and the Saudis backed away from direct military retaliation, military exercises took on heightened significance. Vice Admiral Jim Malloy, commander of U.S. Naval Forces Central Command, declared on a visit to Riyadh on Sept. 29 that “engaging and operating closely with regional counterparts is essential to maintain deterrence.”

    But at this moment when U.S. policy in the Middle East appears to be in growing disarray, the question emerges: Who will be the guarantor of security for the vast quantities of hydrocarbons produced and shipped from the region? And there are now ample signals that Russia wants to step into a role as part of its expanding influence in the region.

    One of the clearest indicators came last month when Iran—yes, Iran—announced through its official media that it would soon participate in joint naval exercises with Russia and China. Yes, China.

    Those reports came soon after the United States, in the aftermath of the attacks on Saudi Arabia, said it would be sending a few hundred American troops to bolster the kingdom’s defenses. That augmentation has since been increased to 3,000 U.S. troops. But the Iranian announcement was not merely reactive and should not have come as a surprise, at least where the Russian-Iranian connection was concerned.

    Already at the end of July, according to Jane’s Navy International, Rear Admiral Hossein Khanzadi, commander of the Iranian Navy, and Russian Navy chief Admiral Nikolai Anatolevich Evemenov “signed a memorandum of understanding” to “expand bilateral ties.”

    At the beginning of this month, Moscow confirmed preparations for a joint naval exercise with China and Iran in the Indian Ocean. At the Valdai Discussion Club held from Sept. 30 until Oct. 3 in Sochi, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said flatly “We, the People’s Republic of China, and Iran are preparing naval drills for fighting terrorists and pirates in this part of the Indian Ocean.”

    The limited scope reflected China’s caution. Analysts told the South China Morning Post in September, just after the Iranian announcement, that Beijing probably would not send anything more than a few ships from its anti-piracy squadron, which has been in place off the coast of Somalia for years. The last thing it wants is to get caught between Washington and Tehran.

    But as military analyst Song Zhongping told the Morning Post, the Chinese “escort fleet” off the African coast is looking to extend its reach into the northern Indian Ocean and the Strait of Hormuz, waterways “important to China’s oil lifeline in the Middle East.”

    So, is the planned joint exercise part of a “preemptive defense” strategy against a possible U.S attack on Iran? Although the message is carefully calibrated, even discussion of such exercises is a show of support for Tehran at a time when Iran is reeling under the U.S policy of “maximum pressure,” pushing it toward economic isolation worldwide.

    The planned joint exercise does not guarantee Beijing and Moscow would side with Tehran if Iran is attacked by the U.S. or Israel, but at a minimum it suggests that possibility. Iran wants to show that it may be isolated economically but not politically or militarily. And China and Russia want to show their solidarity while taking, for the moment, minimum risks.

    The Russian foreign minister’s announcement at the Valdai conference at the beginning of the month “was at the request of Iran,” Andrei Fedorov, director of the Center for Political Research and Consulting in Moscow, told The Daily Beast, “but we are trying not to hurry up.”

    For the moment, Russian President Vladimir Putin’s attention is fixed on the situation in Syria, which he will discuss with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan at a summit meeting Tuesday.

    Over the medium and long term, however, if China, Russia and Iran continue to develop their ties to protect their strategic interests in the Indian Ocean they will form a powerful trio, with Russia taking the lead.

    The concept of collective security in the Persian Gulf was introduced by Moscow in July this year. The concept stipulates organizing an international conference on security and cooperation in the Gulf, which will later lead to creating a security and cooperation organization in the region.

    China endorsed that overall concept in July. “We welcome the Russian initiative," said Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Hua Chunying, according to a report by the Russian news agency TASS. “We would also like to boost cooperation, coordination, and communication with all the corresponding parties,” Chunying said.

    China and Russia, both of them permanent members of the United Nations Security Council, have continued business with Tehran, defying the sanctions re-imposed by the Trump administration, and both the countries are set to deepen their involvement in Iran’s energy and infrastructure sectors.

    Despite Washington’s unilateral sanctions on Iranian oil imposed in May, China imported more than 900,000 metric tons of crude oil from Iran in July, up more than 8 percent from the month before, according to China’s General Administration of Customs.

    China also sees strategically located Iran as an important link in the One Belt One Road (OBOR) initiative that could connect it to Europe. China and Iran agreed to bolster bilateral defense-military cooperation in 2016, and the two countries discussed a road map for the China-Iran comprehensive strategic partnership this August, when Iran Foreign Minister Mohammad Zarif paid a visit to his Chinese counterpart Wang Li.

    China is the world’s largest importer of crude oil, and Saudi Arabia, which supplies the Chinese with a million barrels a day, has now become Beijing’s second largest crude oil supplier, after Russia. But Beijing would like to diversify by finding a way to expand its importation of Iranian oil.

    Thanks to president Trump’s manufactured crisis in the Persian Gulf after his unilateral withdrawal from the Iran nuclear deal and the policy of economic strangulation against Tehran, China, Russia and Iran are drawing closer as strategic partners.
     
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    Iraq says U.S. forces withdrawing from Syria have no approval to stay
    OCTOBER 22, 2019

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-syria-security-iraq/iraq-says-u-s-forces-withdrawing-from-syria-have-no-approval-to-stay-idUSKBN1X10RE

    BAGHDAD/PRINCE SULTAN AIR BASE, Saudi Arabia (Reuters) - U.S. forces that crossed into Iraq as part of a pull-out from Syria do not have permission to stay and can only be there in transit, the Iraqi military said on Tuesday.

    U.S. Defense Secretary Mark Esper said, however, that Washington aimed eventually to bring the troops withdrawing from Syria back to the United States.

    The Iraqi military statement contradicted the Pentagon’s announcement that all of the nearly 1,000 troops withdrawing from northern Syria are expected to move to western Iraq to continue the campaign against Islamic State militants and to help defend Iraq.

    “All U.S. forces that withdrew from Syria received approval to enter the Kurdistan Region so that they may be transported outside Iraq. There is no permission granted for these forces to stay inside Iraq,” the Iraqi military said.

    Esper said Washington’s objective was for the troops not to remain in Iraq.
     
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    US official warned Syrian Kurdish leader not to talk to Assad or Russia in heated meeting
    The meeting came hours before Turkey and Russia struck a deal to jointly patrol the northeast Syria border zone
    OCTOBER 22, 2019

    https://thedefensepost.com/2019/10/22/us-official-meeting-ilham-ahmed-assad-russa/

    A State Department official told a senior Syrian Kurdish leader during a meeting in Washington that the United States would not fully withdraw its forces from northeast Syria and advised her administration not to engage with Bashar al-Assad’s government or with Russia.

    According to two sources familiar with the Monday, October 22 meeting, a senior member of Washington’s diplomatic team is said to have become angry and told Ilham Ahmed, President of the Executive Committee of the Syrian Democratic Council, that the U.S. will not allow the SDC to arrange a deal with the Assad regime or Russia for protection against the Turkey-led attack.

    Ahmed is currently in Washington to appeal to the Trump administration and Congress to stop the Turkish incursion, which has displaced more than 176,000 people and killed scores of others. The Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons is also investigating the possible use of banned weapons after accusations Turkish forces employed white phosphorous against civilians in the border town of Ras al-Ayn.

    Ahmed and two other SDC representatives declined to comment on the meeting. State Department representatives did not respond to requests for comment.

    The Syrian Democratic Forces have requested that U.S. forces either defend the SDF-controlled region or withdraw from northeast Syria completely so the SDF can arrange a political deal for the Syrian government to return to the northeast.

    Led by U.S. Special Representative for Syria Engagement James Jeffrey, Washington’s diplomatic team has repeatedly discouraged the SDC from negotiating with the Assad regime while signaling that implementation of Turkey’s demands for a so-called safe zone – dismantling SDF border defenses and allowing joint U.S.-Turkish patrols – would deter Ankara’s aggression, according to SDC officials.

    “If that’s true, I’d say that’s diplomatic malpractice,” Robert Ford, the last U.S. ambassador to Syria, told The Defense Post.

    Meanwhile, the U.S. has declined SDF requests to strike Turkey-led forces to stop the incursion. A ceasefire announced by Vice President Mike Pence last week after meeting Erdogan in Ankara was widely seen by the SDF as a capitulation to the Turkish government’s demands.

    According to a document obtained by CNN, SDF commander Mazlum Abdi pleaded with Jeffrey’s deputy, William Roebuck, to allow the SDF to negotiate with Russia for protection as Turkish artillery pounded Syrian border towns ahead of the invasion earlier in October.

    “Are you planning to let Turkey proceed 30 km and take our towns and villages? We need to know if this is the intent,” Mazlum reportedly said. Roebuck told the commander “not to take any immediate decisions” and said he would defer to Jeffrey, who is also the Special Envoy to the Coalition against ISIS, according to the report.

    A senior SDC official told The Defense Post that Mazlum only approached the Syrian regime after the situation became desperate. “We did not wait for the answer from officials in Washington,” the official said on the condition of anonymity. “It was what it was.”

    Pro-Syrian government troops entered the northeast as American forces withdrew over the past week, but political negotiations with the Assad regime have not yet begun, Ahmed told The Defense Post on Monday.

    Turkey launched Operation Peace Spring on October 9 after a phone call between U.S. President Donald Trump and Erdogan and the White House announcement that American troops would leave the northeast border posts. U.S. officials have insisted NATO-ally Turkey was not given a “green light” to invade.

    Ankara considers the multi-ethnic SDF alliance and its component People’s Protection Units (YPG), which is predominantly Kurdish, to be inextricably tied to the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) that has waged a decades-long insurgency in Turkey.

    SDC officials told The Defense Post that American officials in the past have promised they would not withdraw U.S. forces until a political settlement was in place to secure their future in the Syrian political system.

    On Tuesday, Erdogan and Russian President Vladimir Putin announced they had reached an agreement for northeast Syria that will see the preservation of the “status quo in the current Operation Peace Spring area” to a depth of 32 km. The deal includes Russian military police and Syrian border guards deploying on the Syria side of the border, as well as joint Russian-Turkish patrols to a depth of 10 km outside the area between Ras al-Ayn and Tel Abyad.
     
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    Albanian police say Iranian 'terror cell' planned to attack exiles
    Paramilitary network allegedly targeted members of MEK in Albania
    23 Oct 2019

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-iranian-terror-cell-planned-to-attack-exiles

    Albanian police say they have discovered an Iranian paramilitary network that allegedly planned attacks in Albania against exiled members of an Iranian group that is seeking to overthrow the government in Tehran.

    The country’s police chief, Ardi Veliu, said the foreign wing of Iran’s Revolutionary Guards operated an “active terrorist cell” targeting members of the Mujahedin-e Khalq, or MEK, in Albania.

    He did not say what the alleged plot involved or whether any arrests were made.

    A police statement alleged that two Iranian security officials led the cell from Tehran. It said the network was allegedly linked to organised crime groups in Turkey and used a former MEK member to collect information in Albania.

    Veliu said a planned attack on the group in Albania by Iranian government agents was foiled in March.

    Last year Albania expelled Iran’s ambassador and another Iranian diplomat over alleged illegal activities threatening Albania’s security.

    MEK is outlawed in Iran and was listed as a terrorist organisation by the US state department until 2012. Around 2,500 of its members moved to Albania from Iraq in 2014.
     
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