So Czer is ISIS really just a Saudi front created to mess w/Iran?

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    Major Saudi Arabia oil facilities hit by Houthi drone strikes
    Yemen’s rebel movement says it launched strikes that sparked huge fire at processing facility
    14 Sep 2019

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/sep/14/major-saudi-arabia-oil-facilities-hit-by-drone-strikes

    Houthi rebels have claimed responsibility for a drone attack on the world’s largest oil processing facility in Saudi Arabia which is vital to global energy supplies.

    The attacks on the processor and a major oilfield, operated by Saudi Aramco, on early Saturday sparked a huge fire, the kingdom’s interior ministry said.

    According to Reuters, threes sources claimed the assault had disrupted output and exports, with one source claiming 5 million barrels per day of crude production had been impacted – nearly half the kingdom’s output.

    The Wall Street Journal reported that Saudi Arabia is shutting down about half of its oil output because of the incident. Authorities have not confirmed whether oil production or exports were affected.

    A military spokesman for Yemen’s Iran-aligned Houthi rebels claimed responsibility for the strikes, saying 10 drones had been deployed in the attack.

    The Saudi-led coalition launched airstrikes on Yemen’s northern Saada province, a Houthi stronghold, on Saturday, a Reuters witness said. Houthi-run al Masirah TV said the warplanes targeted a military camp.

    Yahia Sarie made the announcement on Saturday in a televised address carried by the Houthi movement’s al-Masirah satellite news channel.

    Sarie said the rebels had attacked the Abqaiq oil processing facility and the Khurais oil field. He said attacks against the kingdom would get worse if the war in Yemen continued.

    “The only option for the Saudi government is to stop attacking us,” he said. A Saudi-led coalition has been at war with the rebels since March 2015.

    It was unclear whether there were any injuries in the attacks, or whether they would affect the country’s oil production. They are, however, likely to heighten tensions in the region, where Saudi Arabia and Iran are effectively fighting a proxy war in Yemen, and Tehran is at loggerheads with Washington over the latter’s withdrawal from its nuclear deal with world powers.

    Online videos apparently shot in Abqaiq included the sound of gunfire in the background. Smoke rose over the skyline and flames could be seen in the distance at the oil processing facility.

    The fires began after the sites were targeted by drones, the interior ministry said in a statement carried by the state-run Saudi Press Agency. It said an investigation was under way.

    Saudi Aramco describes its Abqaiq facility as the largest crude oil stabilisation plant in the world. It is thought to be able to process up to 7m barrels of crude a day.

    Bob McNally, who runs Rapidan Energy Group and served in the US National Security Council during the second Gulf War in 2003, told Reuters: “A successful attack on Abqaiq would be akin to a massive heart attack for the oil market and global economy.”

    Militants have targeted the plant in the past. Suicide bombers claiming to be from al-Qaida tried but failed to attack it in February 2006.

    The Khurais oil field is thought to produce more than 1m barrels of crude a day. It has estimated reserves of more than 20bn barrels, according to Aramco.

    There was no immediate impact on global oil prices, because markets are closed for the weekend. Benchmark Brent crude had been trading at just above $60 a barrel.

    Abqaiq is 205 miles (330km) north-east of Riyadh.

    A Saudi-led coalition has been at war with the Houthi movement in Yemen since March 2015. The Iranian-backed rebels hold the capital, Sana’a, and other territory in the Arab world’s poorest country.

    The war has triggered the world’s worst humanitarian crisis. The violence has pushed Yemen to the brink of famine and more than 90,000 people have been killed since 2015, according to the US-based Armed Conflict Location and Event Data Project, which tracks the conflict.

    Houthi rebels have been using drones in combat since the start of the Saudi-led war. The first appeared to be off-the-shelf, hobby-kit-style drones, but later versions have been nearly identical to Iranian models. Tehran denies supplying the rebels with weapons, but the west and Gulf Arab nations say it does.

    The rebels have flown drones into the radar arrays of Saudi Arabia’s Patriot missile batteries, according to Conflict Armament Research, disabling them and allowing them to fire ballistic missiles into the kingdom unchallenged.

    They launched drone attacks targeting Saudi Arabia’s crucial east-west pipeline in May as tensions heightened between Iran and the US.

    Houthi drones also struck the Shaybah oil field in August. The field produces 1m barrels of crude a day near the Saudi border with the United Arab Emirates.

    UN investigators have suggested that the rebels’ new UAV-X drone may have a range of up to 930 miles (1,500km), meaning they would be able to reach Saudi Arabia and the UAE.
     
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    US blames Iran for strikes on Saudi oil sites: ‘Unprecedented attack on world’s energy supply’
    9/14/2019

    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/14/us-blames-iran-for-drone-strikes-on-saudi-oilfield.html

    • Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said that Iran is responsible for the drone attacks on important facilities in Saudi Arabia’s oil-rich Eastern Province that reportedly forced the kingdom to shut down half of its oil production on Saturday.
    • Yemen’s Houthi rebels have claimed responsibility for the attacks, which created a huge fire at a processor essential to global energy supplies.
    • “We call on all nations to publicly and unequivocally condemn Iran’s attacks,” Pompeo said.
    Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said Saturday that Iran is responsible for the drone attacks on important facilities in Saudi Arabia’s oil-rich Eastern Province that reportedly forced the kingdom to shut down half of its oil production on Saturday.

    The closure will reportedly impact nearly five million barrels of crude production a day, roughly 5% of the world’s daily oil production.

    “Tehran is behind nearly 100 attacks on Saudi Arabia while Rouhani and Zarif pretend to engage in diplomacy. Amid all the calls for de-escalation, Iran has now launched an unprecedented attack on the world’s energy supply,” Pompeo tweeted. “There is no evidence the attacks came from Yemen.”

    The White House condemned the attacks and said President Donald Trump spoke with Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman to offer U.S. support for Saudi Arabia’s defense.

    “Violent actions against civilian areas and infrastructure vital to the global economy only deepen conflict and mistrust. The United States Government is monitoring the situation and remains committed to ensuring global oil markets are stable and well supplied,” the White House said.

    Yemen’s Houthi rebels have claimed responsibility for the attacks, which reportedly created a huge fire at a processor essential to global energy supplies. The Saudi interior ministry said the fires were under control and that investigations into the terrorist attack are ongoing.

    The drones attacked Hijra Khurais, one of Saudi Arabia’s largest oil fields, and Abqaiq, the world’s biggest crude stabilization facility.

    “We call on all nations to publicly and unequivocally condemn Iran’s attacks,” Pompeo said. “The United States will work with our partners and allies to ensure that energy markets remain well supplied and Iran is held accountable for its aggression.”
     
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    Kurds are in for a cleansing, they are not going to let the US supporters live

    Already seeing IRGC Kurds being sent via Iraqi Kurdistan and through the Turkish border.

    This push by the SAA to take over the SDF area east of the Euphrates river is being supported by Russia/Iran/Turkey

    Turkey fights the paramilitary Kurds, Russia blocks US from expanding, and Iran is going to quietly make people give up, disappear, or die.

     
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    US won't rule out Trump-Rouhani meeting after blaming Iran for Saudi attacks
    9/15/2019

    https://www.straitstimes.com/world/...-meeting-after-blaming-iran-for-saudi-attacks

    WASHINGTON (REUTERS) - The White House on Sunday (Sept 15) did not rule out a potential meeting between President Donald Trump and Iranian President Hassan Rouhani, even after Washington accused Iran of being behind drone attacks on Saudi oil facilities.

    White House adviser Kellyanne Conway said the attacks on Saturday "did not help" prospects for a meeting between the two leaders during the United Nations General Assembly this month but she left open the possibility it could happen.

    "I'll allow the president (Trump) to announce a meeting or a non-meeting," Conway told "Fox News Sunday."

    The Trump administration's sanctions and "maximum pressure"campaign on Iran over its nuclear and ballistic missile programme will continue whether or not the two leaders meet, she added.

    However, Conway said, "You're not helping your case much,"by attacking Saudi Arabia, civilian areas and critical infrastructure that affects global energy markets.

    Iran has denied US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo's allegations that it was behind the attacks on plants in the heartland of Saudi Arabia's oil industry, including the world's biggest petroleum processing facility.

    Yemen's Iran-aligned Houthi group claimed responsibility for the attacks, which have cut Saudi oil output roughly in half.

    Pompeo said Iran was behind nearly 100 attacks on Saudi Arabia while leaders in Teheran "pretend to engage in diplomacy."

    Sunni Saudi Arabia and Shi'ite-led Iran back opposing factions across the Middle East, from Yemen and Syria to Lebanon and Iraq.

    Saudi Arabia is leading a military coalition to back Yemen's internationally recognised government against the Houthis.

    Washington, a staunch ally of Riyadh, has adopted a tough anti-Iran "maximum pressure" policy to force Teheran to negotiate a broader deal that further curbs its nuclear programme, restricts Teheran's ballistic missile work and ends its support for regional proxy forces.

    US Representative Adam Schiff, the Democratic chairman of the House intelligence committee, said he had not yet been briefed on whether the Saudi attack was directly attributable to Iran.

    However, he told CBS' "Face the Nation" programme that, "I think it's safe to say that the Houthis don't have the capability to do a strike like this without Iranian assistance."

    Schiff said he thought Trump should engage in diplomacy with Iran because "it's the only way out of the situation" that has developed since the Republican president pulled the United States out of the Iran nuclear deal last year.

    On Saturday, Republican US Senator Lindsey Graham, a Trump ally, advocated a different approach. He said it was time for the United States "to put on the table an attack on Iranian oil refineries."
     
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    White House declines to rule out Trump-Iran meeting and US military response after drone attacks on Saudi oil field
    Sep 15, 2019

    https://www.kgun9.com/news/national...sponse-after-drone-attacks-on-saudi-oil-field

    (CNN) -- White House senior counselor Kellyanne Conway said Sunday that President Donald Trump has "many options on the table" when it comes to responding to what his administration has described as Iran's role in a crippling strike on Saudi Arabia's oil production this weekend .

    Conway, in keeping with the Trump administration's policy of declining to outline possible military responses to provocations, declined to say whether a retaliatory strike on Iranian oil is under consideration. But she did leave open the door to a potential meeting between Trump and Iranian President Hassan Rouhani next week in New York -- something that was a possibility before the attack in Saudi Arabia.

    "The President will always consider his options," Conway said on "Fox News Sunday" when asked if Trump would still sit down with Rouhani under current circumstances. "We've never committed to that meeting at the United Nations General Assembly. The President's just said he's looking at it."

    "When you attack Saudi Arabia ... you're not helping your case much," she added.

    Secretary of State Mike Pompeo pinned the blame on Iran for an attack at a Saudi oil field in a pair of tweets Saturday, but Iranian foreign ministry spokesman Seyyed Abbas Mousavi rejected that accusation.

    "Such blind accusations and inappropriate comments in a diplomatic context are incomprehensible and meaningless," he said, adding: "Even hostility needs a certain degree of credibility and reasonable frameworks, US officials have also violated these basic principles."

    Yemen's Houthi rebels took responsibility for the attacks but they are often backed by Iran. Saudi Arabia has been leading a military campaign to quash the Houthi rebels in Yemen since March 2015. The conflict is widely seen as a proxy war between the Saudis and Iran, which has been backing the Houthis.

    But preliminary indications suggest the attack on the world's largest oil processing plant did not originate from Yemen and likely originated from Iraq, according to a source with knowledge of the incident. The same official said the damage was caused by an armed drone attack.

    In an address on Iran's Press TV on Sunday, Rouhani did not specifically reference the attack on Saudi Arabia's oil facilities but did accuse Americans of running a "war operation" by "supporting the UAE and Saudi Arabia, transferring weapons, and providing intelligence."

    "What is happening in this region today has created concern among majority of world countries," he said.

    CNN has independently reached out to the State Department for further information regarding the attack and who was involved.

    Global oil disruption

    CNN National Security Analyst Peter Bergen said there have been more than 200 drone and missile attacks launched by Houthi rebels from Yemen into Saudi Arabia, and none have been as effective as Saturday's attack, lending credence to the belief that the attack did not originate from Yemen.

    Drone strikes on crucial Saudi Arabian oil facilities have disrupted about half of the kingdom's oil capacity, or 5% of the daily global oil supply, CNN Business reported earlier Saturday.

    It's unclear when the Abiqaiq plant, which is operated by Saudi giant Aramco, will be fully operational again.

    Trump called Saudi Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman on Saturday to offer his support for the country's self-defense, White House deputy press secretary Judd Deere said in a statement.

    "The United States strongly condemns today's attack on critical energy infrastructure," Deere said. "Violent actions against civilian areas and infrastructure vital to the global economy only deepen conflict and mistrust."

    The US government "remains committed to ensuring global oil markets are stable and well supplied," the spokesman said.

    Conway downplayed the impact of likely disruptions to the global oil market Sunday by pointing to Trump's efforts to develop domestic energy.

    "This President also through his energy policy, Bill, has made us less dependent on these foreign leaders and bad regimes for our energy supply," she told Fox's Bill Hemmer. "We have energy under our feet and off our shore and this President is leading the way to responsibly develop it."

    Bolton's exit

    Conway on Sunday dismissed a question about whether Trump has a sufficiently robust national security team in place in the wake of the departure of his national security adviser, John Bolton, this week.

    She spoke broadly about the President welcoming dissent on his team, but then said she was not speaking specifically about disagreements between the President and Bolton.

    The Washington Post, citing a person close to Bolton, reported Saturday that his departure from Trump's team stemmed from a disagreement Monday over a suggestion from Trump that the US might lift some sanctions on Iran as a negotiation tool.

    Conway said Sunday that "John Bolton and Donald Trump were aligned on many different issues."

    "Before the President makes a decision ... he invites dissenting opinions. He not just expects, he accepts disagreement," she said. "And then he weighs the consequences, hears everybody out, reads the briefing papers...and then he makes the decisions."

    Conway said Trump is in the process of interviewing candidates and that a decision could come this week or next. "It is the President's agenda, his national security, foreign policy beliefs that will go forward," she said.

    Lawmakers split on military action

    Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham on Saturday called the attack "yet another example of how Iran is wreaking havoc in the Middle East," arguing in a string of tweets "the Iranian regime is not interested in peace - they're pursuing nuclear weapons and regional dominance."

    "It is now time for the U.S. to put on the table an attack on Iranian oil refineries if they continue their provocations or increase nuclear enrichment. Iran will not stop their misbehavior until the consequences become more real, like attacking their refineries, which will break the regime's back," he wrote in a pair of tweets .

    Connecticut Democratic Sen. Chris Murphy criticized Pompeo's characterizations of the attack in a tweet Saturday, saying, "This is such irresponsible simplification and it's how we get into dumb wars of choice." Murphy then doubled down in a series of tweets Sunday, saying the US "can't have it both ways" and "Trump/Pompeo see only Iranian, not Saudi, misdeeds."

    "In Yemen, Iran supports the Houthi side; America supports the Saudi side. It's an ugly war. But the Trump Administration can't say Iran is responsible for every attack on the Saudis and then wash its hands of Saudi attacks on Houthi targets," he wrote.

    Republican Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky also cautioned against US military action, telling CNN's Jake Tapper on "State of the Union" Sunday that "an escalation of the war would be a big mistake."

    "This is a regional conflict, that there's no reason the superpower of the United States needs to be getting into bombing mainland Iran," he said.
     
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    Leaders of Turkey, Russia, Iran set to tackle Syria turmoil
    9/15/2019

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ran-set-to-tackle-syria-turmoil-idUSKBN1W00FU

    ANKARA (Reuters) - The leaders of Turkey, Russia and Iran meet on Monday to try to secure a lasting truce in northwest Syria following attacks by the government that risk deepening regional turmoil and pushing a new wave of migrants toward Turkey.

    The summit in Ankara, bringing together countries whose Syrian allies are combatants in a ruinous eight-year-old war, will focus on the Idlib region, the last remaining territory held by rebels seeking to overthrow President Bashar al-Assad.

    Russian President Vladimir Putin and Iran’s Hassan Rouhani have backed Assad against the rebels. Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan, along with the United States, European and Arab allies, has supported different rebel factions in the conflict.

    Assad’s forces, aided by Russian air power, have regained control of most lands lost in the war. In recent months, Assad’s forces have attacked Idlib, where Syrian and foreign radical fighters hold sway alongside other more moderate factions.

    Under a deal with Moscow and Tehran two years ago, Turkey set up 12 military observation posts in northwest Syria aimed at reducing fighting between Assad’s forces and rebels. The Turkish military posts have recently been caught in the crossfire due to the Syrian offensive in the region.

    In an interview with Reuters on Friday, Erdogan warned that any Syrian government attack on the posts would draw retaliation from Turkish forces, possibly risking a direct confrontation between Ankara and Damascus.

    “The moment that the regime messes with our observation posts, if there is any attack, then things will take a very different direction,” Erdogan told Reuters. “We will not hold back like we are now. We will take any necessary steps.”

    Erdogan and Putin agreed at talks in Moscow in August to “normalize” the situation in the region, after Syrian troops encircled rebels and a Turkish post in a move Ankara said threatened its national security.

    While Putin and Erdogan have forged close ties over a range of issues like energy and defense cooperation, recent attacks by Syrian troops have also strained ties between Ankara and Moscow.


    POSSIBLE MIGRANT WAVE

    The fighting in northwestern Syria has also raised the risk of a new migrant wave towards Turkey, which currently hosts some 3.6 million Syrian refugees.

    The United Nations has said that more than 500,000 people have been uprooted since late April, most of them escaping deeper into the rebel bastion and towards the border.

    While Erdogan has said that Turkey could not handle such an influx of refugees, he has also previously threatened to “open the gates” for migrants to Europe unless Ankara receives more international support.

    On Friday, Erdogan reiterated his warning and said Monday’s summit would aim to stop the migration from Idlib and establish a ceasefire to prevent any further civilian casualties.

    “The expectation here is not a momentary ceasefire. First, it is to put a stop to the migration here,” he told Reuters. “Second, to ensure a ceasefire here. Third, to seriously get terrorist organizations under control,” he added.

    “Turkey, which is hosting 3.6 million refugees in its home at the moment, cannot take the millions of people that will arrive from there,” Erdogan said. “We cannot carry that weight.”

    Erdogan’s ruling AK Party (AKP) suffered some stunning local election losses this year in part due to impatience among Turks over the Syrian refugees. Erdogan has said one million refugees could return to a “safe zone” in northeast Syria, which Turkey is trying to establish with the United States.

    Syrian troops shelled the south of Idlib on Sunday, according to rescuers and residents in the rebel stronghold where a ceasefire had halted a fierce army offensive two weeks ago.

    The summit also comes after Yemen’s Iran-aligned Houthi group launched drone attacks on two of Saudi Arabia’s Aramco oil installations on Saturday. Washington later blamed Iran for the attacks, which Tehran dismissed as “pointless” on Sunday.

    On Monday, Erdogan, Putin and Rouhani are expected to hold bilateral talks with each other before holding trilateral talks on the developments in Idlib. The three leaders will then hold a joint news conference.
     
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    there are only 70k US troops in all Centom coverage currently, we won't do shit
     
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    Pentagon Orders Sudden Deployment Drill Of Unprecedented Size For Its Sealift Ships
    Dozens of reserve logistics ships are getting ready to sail amid concerns about the readiness of these vital support fleets during a major conflict.
    SEPTEMBER 17, 2019

    https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zo...nprecedented-size-for-fleets-of-sealift-ships

    U.S. Transportation Command, in cooperation with the U.S. Navy's Military Sealift Command and the Department of Transportation's Maritime Administration, kicked off a massive snap sealift exercise yesterday across the United States. It involves an unprecedented 28 ships from the Ready Reserve Force, a fleet of support ships with merchant marine crews that would be vital during any large scale conflict, but which has experienced serious readiness problems in recent years leading to concerns that they would be unable to support a sustained conflict abroad.

    The exercise, aptly nicknamed Turbo Activation, began on Sept. 16, 2019, and involves crews from the Ready Reserve Force getting no-notice orders to "activate" their ships and get them ready for operations. The general goal of these exercises, four of which generally occur every fiscal year, is to validate the readiness of the vessels involved and test the ability of merchant mariners to get them operational within an assigned timeframe. How long a crew has to prepare varies from ship to ship and can be anywhere from four to 20 days.

    "The activated ships are directed to transition from a reduced operating status to a fully crewed status, with the quarters made habitable and cargo gear ready, within five days," according to a press release from U.S. Transportation Command (TRANSCOM). "Activations are commonly followed immediately by a sea trial."

    The release does not say what ships have gotten activation orders, but does say that they are the Maritime Administration's (MARAD) Ready Reserve Force, as well as from Military Sealift Command's (MSC) "surge" fleet. These are spread around ports on the East and West Coasts of the United States, as well as ones on the Gulf of Mexico.

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    As of March 2019, the surge fleet included 15 roll-on/roll-off (RORO) cargo ships, while the Ready Reserve Force had 46 more ships. MARAD's contingent 35 more RORO vessels and 11 "special mission ships," which include tankers and ships with specialized capabilities, such as heavy lift cranes and aviation maintenance shops. One of the special mission ships, the M/V Cape Ray, notably carried elaborate equipment to support the destruction of Syrian chemical weapons in 2014.

    Merchant marines serve aboard both MSC and MARAD ships, but the crews of the former also include military personnel. When ships from MARAD's Ready Reserve Force activate, they come under the direct operational control of MSC. Another approximately 60 U.S.-flagged commercial ships are part of the U.S. government's Maritime Security Program and could get pressed into service during a crisis, but are not part of the standing reserve fleets.

    During any major contingency, these vessels would provide absolutely vital logistics capabilities, especially it there was a need to move large contingents of ground forces into a theater during the early phases of a particular operation. During sustained operations, these ships would become a critical link in the logistics chain.

    So, it makes good sense to ensure that reserve fleets are ready and able to respond, if necessary. However, Turbo Activations, which first began in 1994, are typically relatively small affairs, often involving between three and five ships in total.

    "These exercises typically involve only a few ships, but this event targets 28 vessels for activation to provide a better assessment of the readiness of U.S. sealift forces than can be accomplished with fewer activations," U.S. Transportation Command's statement said. "This scale will also stress the underlying support network involved in maintaining, manning and operating the nation’s ready sealift forces."

    This stress testing is particularly important at present given very serious concerns about the readiness of these ships, which emerged in detail earlier this year. As of March 2019, of the combined 61 ships in MSC and MARAD's reserve fleets, 13 of them, or more than 20 percent of the total, were not mission capable. Another six were missing their certificate of inspection, a legal requirement for their operation under U.S. law.

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    Even ships listed as mission capable have not always been able to meet their activation requirements. Turbo Activation exercises between 2010 and 2018 involved 127 attempted activations, in total, 10 percent of which were unsuccessful, according to a study from the RAND Corporation earlier this year.

    Some ships took part in more than one exercise during this period and failed multiple times to pass muster.

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    With this in mind, it's perhaps not surprising that the decision to dramatically scale up this particular exercise came only very recently. "The increased scale of this iteration [of Turbo Activation] was decided Sept. 10, during discussions between TRANSCOM and Navy leadership as part of an effort to better validate readiness," U.S. Navy Captain Kevin Stephens, a TRANSCOM spokesperson, told The War Zone by Email in a follow-up.

    These are serious issues when one considers that the U.S. military's activated 40 of these ships – 12 more than TRANSCOM is looking to put to sea in this latest exercise – in 2003 to support the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq. Though certainly a major conflict, that was still a relatively modest affair compared to what an extended, high-end conflict against a "global competitor," such as Russia or China, might look like.

    Any conflict in the Pacific region, in particular, where "tyranny of distance" will be more pronounced and logistics chains will be spread across thousands of miles of open ocean, would see heavy demands on MSC and MARAD's sealift capabilities. This isn't even taking into account growing threats to logistics vessels and concerns about the availability of ships and other assets to escort them, which could lead to losses and further strain the reserve fleets' overall capacity.

    The War Zone has explored these separate issues on multiple occasions in the past. This also comes as the U.S. Marine Corps is looking to move to a more distributed concept for sealift operations, a radical shift away from the traditional focus on large amphibious warfare ships, which you can ready about more in this recent feature. The Marines have already been experimenting with using reserve fleet ships for more limited deployments to help free up traditional amphibious ships for higher priority missions.

    All told, whatever the results of this greatly expanded iteration of Turbo Activation are, and no matter how many ships actually activate successfully, seeing what has been working, or not, to increase the readiness of MSC's and MARAD's reserve fleets will be extremely valuable for ensuring that these ships are indeed available when it matters most.
     
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    so 2 and a half carrier strike groups max can fit in the persian gulf that's around 42 - 54 ships on average (depending on if a third carrier is included) a strike group is like 17/18 ships on each carrier, so 2 or 3 carriers included. Around 5 of the ships in a strike group generally are offensive capable unless more are included, the majority are logistics and support

    Maximum speed of a carrier is 30 knots or 35 mph/56km/h, they can carry up to 6000 people on a single super carrier

    normandy invasion fleet had like 7000 ships total

    allies had 1.5 million soldiers and the germans had 350k, allies lost more people in the landing capture than Germans lost

    the europeans obviously learned on the lesson from gallipoli where they contributed only a smaller majority over the Turkish defense and the UK lost around 180,000 or so soldiers and French around 30,000 or so with the Turks suffering 55,000 or so while successfully destroying the invading landing force
     
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    Russia conducts massive military drills with China, sending a message to the West
    SEP 17 2019

    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/17/russia-conducts-tsentr-2019-military-exercises-with-china-and-india.html
    • Russia is carrying out a series of large-scale military exercises with China, India and Pakistan in what experts believe is Moscow trying to send a powerful message to the West.
    • The military drills take place annually but Russia has upped the ante this year by inviting forces from China, India and Pakistan (as well as Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan) to take part in the drills.
    • The exercises are not directed at any other country, Russia said.
    Russia is carrying out a series of large-scale military exercises with China, India and Pakistan in what experts believe is Moscow trying to send a powerful message to the West.

    The military drills take place annually but Russia has upped the ante this year by inviting forces from China, India and Pakistan (as well as Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan) to take part in the drills.

    The exercises will involve 128,000 military personnel, more than 20,000 weapons and military equipment, about 600 aircraft and up to 15 ships and support vessels, according to the Russian defense ministry. The drills are designed to test the combat-readiness of the military command and troops within the central military district in Russia (hence being called “Tsentr-2019”) and will also see the country test its military capabilities in the Arctic.

    The season of Tsentr exercises actually started in June but this week is seen as the culmination of those in the most important “strategic command post exercise,” known as the “hot phase” by experts.

    Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu insisted earlier in September that the strategic military exercises are not directed against other countries but are instead focused on countering the threat from international terrorism.

    But experts say the exercises are also designed to show Russia’s military strength and abilities, showcase its weaponry for commercial purposes and, most importantly, are meant to send an unequivocal message to the West.

    “This is very much an anti-American message, an anti-Western message that Russia is not isolated and Russia can operate with a potential rival — because China is very much seen both as a friend and an enemy and potential competitor to Russian interests in the future,” Mathieu Boulegue, research fellow of the Russia and Eurasia Programme at Chatham House, said in a briefing ahead of the exercises.

    “The message is quite clear when it comes to Russia, it means that ‘we’re not alone, we have a lot of partners, we’re not isolated so whatever efforts the West are trying to do against us we are still able to have powerful military alliances with China, India and Pakistan’,” he said.

    Just for show?
    Experts like Boulegue view the annual military drills with skepticism, especially when it comes to the number of military personnel and equipment involved.

    “Don’t trust the numbers, honestly, don’t believe the figures. They’re here to show the strength of the Russian army,” he said, noting that any kind of military drill taking place in Russia over the last four months could be labeled a part of “Tsentr,” hence inflating the size of the exercise.

    Anyone watching Tsentr 2019 should expect a carefully choreographed military spectacle, Boulegue said. And with China involved (as it was last year too), Russia will be keen to avoid mishaps that could embarrass Russia’s defense ministry. In the 2017 military drills a helicopter was filmed accidentally firing a rocket at a cargo vehicle, for example.

    The exercises have also been a way for Russia to show off its military wares to potential arms buyers, although the most significant element of this year’s training is the participation of China, Boulegue said. He added that it shouldn’t be taken as a sign of a new strategic alliance between the two nations that are both seeking to build stable ties in the face of a more unpredictable U.S. power, while remaining potential rivals on an economic and political level.

    “What Russia is actually doing here is demonstrating status and performing the link with China that it’s trying to build in the security sphere on the world stage,” Boulegue said, emphasizing that “this is not a strategic alliance, there is nothing strategic about China-Russia relations right now … But what it’s showing is just a meaningful defense and security partnership.”
     
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    Saudi Arabia joins US-led maritime coalition after attack

    https://www.apnews.com/9fb95c0d28c8...AP&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter

    DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — Saudi Arabia said Wednesday it joined a U.S.-led coalition to secure the Mideast’s waterways amid threats from Iran after an attack targeting its crucial oil industry.

    The kingdom’s decision to enter the International Maritime Security Construct came ahead of a planned visit by U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. Saudi officials separately planned to share information about the weapons used to attack a Saudi oil field and the world’s largest crude oil processing plant Saturday.

    Yemen’s Iranian-backed Houthi rebels have claimed the attack, but the U.S. and Saudi Arabia say they suspect Iran carried out the assault. Iran denies that, though it comes amid a summer of heightened tensions between Tehran and Washington over its unraveling nuclear deal with world powers.

    The state-run Saudi Press Agency carried a statement Wednesday morning quoting an unnamed official saying the kingdom had joined the International Maritime Security Construct.

    Australia, Bahrain and the United Kingdom already have joined the mission.

    “The kingdom’s accession to this international alliance comes in support of regional and international efforts to deter and counter threats to maritime navigation and global trade in order to ensure global energy security and the continued flow of energy supplies to the global economy and contribute to maintain the international peace and security,” the news agency said.

    U.S. military officials did not immediately respond to requests for comment from The Associated Press.

    The coalition aims to secure the broader Persian Gulf region. It includes surveillance of the Strait of Hormuz, the narrow mouth of the Persian Gulf through which a fifth of the world’s oil travels, and the Bab el-Mandeb, another narrow strait that connects the Red Sea and the Gulf of Aden off Yemen and East Africa. Smaller patrol boats and other craft will be available for rapid response. The plan also allows for nations to escort their own ships through the region

    The U.S. Navy already has sent Arleigh Burke-class guided missile destroyers to chokepoint positions, like either end of the Strait of Hormuz. There, they observe ship traffic and monitor for anything unusual as drones and other aircraft fly surveillance routes overhead.

    The U.S. blames Iran for the apparent limpet mine explosions on four vessels in May and another two in June sailing in the Gulf of Oman near the Strait of Hormuz, something Iran denies being behind. Iran also seized a British-flagged oil tanker and another based in the United Arab Emirates.

    It’s unclear what role the kingdom will play in the coalition. Bahrain already serves at the headquarters of the U.S. Navy’s 5th Fleet.

    Wednesday’s announcement comes after Saudi Arabia’s energy minister said late Tuesday that more than half of the country’s daily crude oil production that was knocked out by an attack had been recovered and that production capacity at its targeted plants would be fully restored by the end of the month.

    “Where would you find a company in this whole world that went through such a devastating attack and came out like a phoenix?” Prince Abdulaziz bin Salman said about state-owned Saudi Aramco, which was the target of the attacks. His question to reporters, many of them Saudi, drew applause.
     
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    If it was a cruise missile launch we have plenty of evidence. If they did it thinking we wouldn't be able to determine the source then that might be a good thing. But worries me if they knew we would know and they did it anyways. Iraq/kuwait invasion and cut off the gulf?
     
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    None of that made sense, it doesn't even look like you can even conceptualize how radar works.
     
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    Disputing Trump Claims, Japan Says No Evidence Iran Was Behind Saudi Attack
    "We are not aware of any information that points to Iran," said Japanese defense minister Taro Kono.
    9/18/2019

    https://www.commondreams.org/news/2...says-no-evidence-iran-was-behind-saudi-attack

    Japanese Defense Minister Taro Kono told reporters Wednesday that he has not seen any intelligence indicating Iran was behind the attacks on Saudi Arabian oil facilities over the weekend, contradicting Saudi and Trump administration claims about the incident.

    "We are not aware of any information that points to Iran," Kono said during a press briefing. "We believe the Houthis carried out the attack based on the statement claiming responsibility."

    The only evidence the Trump administration has released to substantiate its claim of Iranian responsibility are satellite photos that experts said are not clear enough to assign blame. Ret. Gen. Mark Hertling, a CNN intelligence analyst, said the images "really don't show anything, other than pretty good accuracy on the strike of the oil tanks."

    Kono said Japan, an ally of both Iran and the U.S., is still in the process of determining who was behind the attacks, which were allegedly carried out by drones.

    "Given Japan's strong ties with the U.S. based on the U.S.-Japan Alliance, and the relationship of trust that Japan has with various countries located in the Middle East, Japan is in a position to fulfill a mediating role," said Kono.

    The defense minister's statement is the second time this year Japan has contradicted the Trump administration's attempt to pin an attack on Iran with insufficient evidence. In June, as Common Dreams reported, the Trump administration blamed Iran for an explosion that damaged a Japanese oil tanker in the Gulf of Oman. Yutaka Katada, president of the Japanese company that owns the tanker, publicly disputed the White House's account of the attack.

    Japan is not the only major nation to express skepticism about the Trump administration's rush to blame Iran for the attacks, which briefly paralyzed Saudi oil production and sent crude prices soaring.

    French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian said Tuesday that he is not aware of evidence demonstrating Iranian involvement, despite claims by U.S. and Saudi officials.

    "Up to now France doesn't have proof permitting it to say that these drones came from such and such a place, and I don't know if anyone has proof," said Le Drian. "We need a strategy of de-escalation for the area, and any move that goes against this de-escalation would be a bad move for the situation in the region."
     
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    Turkey and Russia allowing Syrian ships to port in Crimea to fill oil avoiding the UK