Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Vlaara, Jun 18, 2020.
that's not just them tho. psychometrics has lots of measures and IQ scores are consistently one of the ones w/ the highest predictive validity across many domains. like many measures they have a history filled with racist abuse + intent, but denying that they have value is just ignorance
that doesnt mean what Murray said makes sense ofc. job applications have tons of information in them that explains common variance w/ IQ, and also provides lots of application-specific measures (unless the ppl running the study didnt include anything like this in the job applications?); it is kind of absurd to suggest that employers would generally need to guess at peoples' race from their names and use that to in turn predict their IQ (EDIT: although, also, the differences being argued about are not massive? 2% isnt ignorable, and it being on-average probably hides some much larger differences in single companies, but to hear the way the prose is written you would expect the effect to be like 10% or 20% or larger)
or you can replace IQ w/ educational status or SAT scores or something. they correlate pretty well and Murray's argument would look the same if you made those substitutions; the only difference is those are somewhat more common to actually measure (both of them), & to put on job applications (education)
on TBC specifically, i was surprised in reading it that it wasnt, like, a hard-core Richard Lynn screed. i dont remember them acknowledging the Flynn effect at all (which is the bit of evidence that completely topples the idea that IQ is rigidly & immutably fixed by genetics across most environments, imo), but i thought that was b/c the Flynn Effect was not very well known at the time. maybe i am misremembering, tho; the Flynn Effect wiki claims Herrnstein & Murray coined the name themselves, and in TBC anyway, i found it unexpected, specifically, that TBC acknowledged that several modest-to-large-scale interventions (Head Start, adoptions; and maybe ensuring no widespread malnutrition + removing lead from pipes/water sources, although i may be getting those last 2 from other sources) had large-scale long-term impacts on measured IQ scores (although they still pointed out there tended to be some regression). that isnt the kind of acknowledgement i expected from it at all
Where's the lie?
this isn't our destiny though, you know? if there was a revolution which side would you be on?
US ramps up pressure on Poland over Holocaust restitution
July 28, 2021
is this tongue in cheek or rhetorical
you guys are like tzt hasbara
SOMEONE OUTED US CIRCLE THE WAGONS
Efforts aimed at communicating directly with citizens of other countries to inform and influence them so that they support or tolerate the Israeli government's strategic objectives.
except this is for pink skinned jelly people
I thought "surely that can't be real?" but apparently it is.
"Rickia Young, 28, unknowingly drove into a protest after the police killing of Walter Wallace Jr. in late October.
Wallace was shot in West Philadelphia by police while experiencing what his family called a mental health crisis. Wallace reportedly had a history of mental illness, including bipolar disorder and schizophrenia, according to ABC6.
While Young was making a three-point turn and following police instructions to leave the area, officers broke her SUV windows before handcuffing her and separating her from her 16-year-old nephew and 2-year-old son, her attorneys told the press at the time.
The Fraternal Order of Police, America's largest police labor union, later posted a Facebook picture of Young's son being held by a Philadelphia police officer.
"This child was lost during the violent riots in Philadelphia, wandering around barefoot in an area that was experiencing complete lawlessness," the union said in a since-deleted Facebook post."
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