Macs really catching up!

Discussion in 'Tech Heads' started by Utumno, Feb 13, 2020.

  1. Sear

    Sear TZT Neckbeard Lord

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    We might see them start to commit more to the same universal platform approach. I know one of the recent Surface models runs on an ARM chip.

    Microsoft is (somewhat ironically I guess) supporting Apple right out of the gate with a native ARM version of Office. So they're already looking that way at least to some extent.
     
  2. Utumno

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    Yeah, I never understood Windows 10 on ARM strategy - I always assumed it would be underpowered and have very little dev support, but from a different angle, I can see Microsoft needing to cover their bases. Even if it's rly unlikely, if ARM servers and desktops really took off (long shot for sure), it's still a possibility that Microsoft would want to prepare for.

    I'll be keeping an open mind and I'll be interested to see how adoptation is for enterprises. Most enterprise is going to be Windows-based for the vast majority, but the bay area is pretty heavily tilted towards macbooks particularly in the startup space.

    I might also start fucking around w/ARM based servers just for grins because I like to speak from firsthand experiences when it comes to this shit instead of rattling off shit I read from others.
     
  3. Czer

    Czer I'm a poor person. The lambo is my cousin's.

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    ARM uses a lot less energy consumption, the other thing I'm wondering is the hard built in cellular connections

    I wonder if they are going to start using a web/mesh system for wifi/cellular and just have everyone act as relays
     
  4. Utumno

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    I also wonder about the vidya card aspect of this. I don't live in the ipad world (I own one but I don't get a new one every year or use it for gaming and shit) but as I understand it, all that shit is baked in to the same chip. So I guess the hope/expectation here is that the mac uberarm procs of the future will also have beefy graphics built in?

    Is this really going to be comparable to slapping a GeForce or Radeon card into an x86 box? I mean apple is basically made out of money so theoretically they can achieve anything w/enough time, but I'm going to guess it's not going to be so easy to dethrone (or even approach) nvidia's juicy graphics. Intel is also trying to play catch up in this field and I expect them to fail spectacularly.
     
  5. Utumno

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    I should try running TZT on an ARM server.
     
  6. Sear

    Sear TZT Neckbeard Lord

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    Is power/efficiency important at the enterprise level?

    That's not my wheelhouse, but I imagine that large-scale operations are still gonna be running on Xeons for performance.

    Probably. This is from a year or two ago and idk if it's an inflated claim, but their tablet graphics being on par with the 4k Xbox is nothing to sneeze at.

    https://www.ign.com/articles/2018/10/30/apple-says-the-new-ipad-pro-is-as-powerful-as-an-xbox-one-s

    I don't think anyone will ever buy an Apple product specifically for high-end gaming, though. Or at least I wouldn't.
     
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  7. Czer

    Czer I'm a poor person. The lambo is my cousin's.

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    I don't think NVIDIA embeds ARM in their GPU's