Got me an Oculus Quest

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Utumno, Jun 9, 2020.

  1. Utumno

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    I went w/the Vive a couple years ago, because it had the best tracking and resolution at the time, and HTC makes great hardware, and I wanted to put my money on Big Gabe vs Fuckstain Zuckerberg.

    Now in 2020, during rona lockdown, I finally broke down and got a Quest. They've been sold out everywhere for months, but I've read such good reviews about it (not necessarily from the pixel-counting turbonerds that normally write articles, but from ppl just sharing their experiences about ease of setup and the freedom of VR'ing without a cord), and the reviews were correct.

    I signed up for a waiting list notification and as soon as they were in stock I put in an order.

    Now I've been trying it for a few evenings, and I really love this thing. We actually got more use out of the Vive than I expected (my kids played it like crazy and all their pals came and played it as well), but I expect the Quest will get even more playtime despite being less powerful.

    Just being free of that damned cord is so liberating. Beat saber alone is prob worth the price of admission to me. Workout + dancing + just a whole lot of fun.

    Tonight I downloaded and played the first episode of Vader Imortal.

    God damn. Now I am not going to say this is a perfect VR experience, but outside of shit like The Void (which you need to experience by buying time for the experience on-location), I finally got a taste of what the future of VR could hold if adoption and economics keep trending in a positive direction.

    It is so fucking immersive. 360 degree movie with gameplay elements basically. For a Star Wars nerd it really is like nothing else at all.

    It's not perfect of course. There are moments where the gameplay doesn't quite hold up, it is VERY short for the price (all 3 episodes end up about the length of a movie and $30 is a lot of money for a movie), but still it's unlike any other movie you'll ever see, and it shits on that crap in the theaters that they call "3D". There is no real replay value, though there is a lightsaber dojo to add extra content.

    Also if u have family and friends who are willing to take it for a spin, then u really can get ur money's worth.

    From a pure value perspective, getting a Quest to play the dozen or so top games is still not going to be the equivalent of getting a PS4 or XBoxOne in terms of sheer hours played and content available. But I'd argue that it's still worth it if u can spring the cash, just because of how unique the experience can be.

    Even better would be if u could split it w/a pal or just borrow someone else's who is willing to let you try it out.

    I also got a fishing game which is surprisingly gr8 although it is made by koreans so they only have content for S Korea so far instead of some shit like Florida or California which is a bummer, waiting for DLC.

    Basically every shortcoming now (for me anyway) is more about content available. The Quest may be the device that finally tips the scale though, if they keep selling like they have been... it will make it worthwhile for developers to really invest into the platform and learning how to program for VR.

    I keep hoping it will take the trajectory of the Switch someday and start drawing a huge amount of titles.
     
  2. OrigZeatanas

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    can i borrow your quest. i'll send it back honest
     
  3. Grandasaur Egg

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    should i get this over the newest vive? i'm ready to spend big time, just built a new rig.

    also who wants to help me build a mom & pop VR review shop where we review weird VR shit
     
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  4. OrigZeatanas

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    buy me something and ill review it.
     
  5. Agrul

    Agrul TZT Neckbeard Lord

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    buy me things, also

    i will skip the reviewing part i dont want it
     
  6. OrigZeatanas

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    how about i just sell you the used stuff when im done with it real cheap
     
  7. Agrul

    Agrul TZT Neckbeard Lord

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    you get them interest rates negative and we'll talk bruh
     
  8. Velox

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    The recently announced HP-produced version of the Valve Index also looks really nice if you want a wired experience. I agree with Utumno though, cutting out the wire really does wonders for the experience.

    Have you tried using the third party apps to stream games from your PC to the Quest? I've seen people stream Skyrim and it looks interesting. You can finally use both hands more naturally. There is some video degradation and latency, but very promising. I don't understand why streaming isn't a big thing in VR space yet, the network and compression tech exists (look at Stadia).

    I'm not in a hurry though, I'm likely going to wait until we can get Index-like quality wide-FOV HMDs without wires.
     
  9. Agrul

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    there are youtube channels centered around people dicking around in VR, like this one



    i assume there's also a thriving streamer community but am not sure
     
  10. Velox

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    I meant streaming games from PC to Quest, not streaming to other people. The Quest itself has very limited hardware/software. Although in the example I mentioned he might have streamed to other people also.

    Here is a video:
     
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  11. Agrul

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    oh i see

    i only read the first 3 and last 7 words of everyone's posts so sometimes it is hard to get the context right, you know
     
  12. Velox

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    I know the feeling.
     
  13. OrigZeatanas

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    what about seeing context?
     
  14. Harper

    Harper encrypted account, pls don't sniff my packet

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    About 2-3 years ago, I got the PSVR headset and loved it. It was a buggy, tangled, one-direction-facing piece of shit that wasn't close to consumer-ready, but my friends and family had a blast. However, it's been collecting dust for the past 6 months.

    I was going to wait 5-10 years before getting my next headset because I figured that's how long it would take for them to become mainstream and consumer ready, but it sounds like maybe less?

    Also, beat saber and superhot were like 90% of the games we played. Some people went crazy for job simulator. I also had a counterstrike knockoff that was pretty fun too.
     
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    some of these look p cool

    What isn't mainstream or consumer-ready about it currently? Aside from developer support.
     
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  16. Utumno

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    I have not, but this is on my to-do list.

    I purchased the original Vive knowing it was idiotic from value perspective, because I had a shitload of amazon points built up and I was willing to pay for the novelty and bleeding edge. That aside, I'm totally with you on the waiting bit, it's what I really expected as well.

    I *hate* that FB bought them, but Occulus really nailed this early in the game imo in terms of making something broadly usable. Not only have they been sold out for months, their numbers in general are very encouraging for VR in general. I think they've sold half a million units in 2019 and they are still selling out as fast as they can produce them. Developers are starting to get drawn in more and more, and numbers in 2020 show that developers are disproportionately making more money on the fully stand-alone headsets (Quest) vs PC-attached (Vive/Rift/etc).

    I think it's early days still but there will be some tipping point where well moneyed dev houses will be willing to invest in this more.
     
  17. Utumno

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    That said the Quest isn't magical either. It's got a couple downsides... it's still got inferior resolution to the PC-attached stuff (honestly doesn't bug me at all for gaming, but for photorealistic 360 degree video it's really distracting which is unfortunate - otherwise it would be glorious walking through virtual woods to relax my brain).

    It's also front-heavy due to the guts of the thing being front-mounted, and it hurts my cheekbones to wear it for a long time (which I really want to - more than my other VR experiences, I wanna plug into this fucker for hours straight). I ordered some 3rd party cushions and headbands to see if I can get better support so I can check out of the world for longer periods of time lol
     
  18. Velox

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    Is there anything in a VR HMD that actually has to be heavy? The lenses maybe?

    If you were to make a pure streaming HMD, you don't need a lot of hardware.
     
  19. Utumno

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    Lenses + battery + mobo/proc/etc. are all in front on the Quest. Yes of course if it was pure wireless streaming it could be a bit lighter, use less battery. This is a difficult thing though. I think a slick wireless-streaming only headset would be the next logical step in terms of making the tech very powerful and usable, but your average consumer does NOT want to fuck with all that.

    *maybe* Apple could get away with it because of rly loyal fans and an excellent track record of making everything super-easy for everyman, but they have shown no interest in this space.

    So the computer-in-a-headset model is probably going to win, and it will be a challenge to get really excellent 8k resolution (for 360 degree video) + solid battery life. I think we will get there eventually, but the Quest at $399 is a reasonable stepping stone.
     
  20. Agrul

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    lul utumno bought a vive what a dumbo
     
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