Discussion in 'Spamalot - nsfw' started by Harper, Apr 10, 2019.
The show makes Varys out to be a “good guy” while in the books he is much more scheming and manipulative while vaguely justifying his actions as “for the realm” as he does things like shoot Kevan Lannister with a crossbow when he’s doing too good of a job managing the kingdom as Hand of the King. I think he’s fully in support of FAegon and won’t ever be an adviser to Dany in the books.
I lost brain cells reading this post.
It's really cute watching fans do the mental gymnastics of Summarize The Episode But Retcon The Shitty Writing To Make It Seem Good and Reasonable
see if u look back at history there's lots of examples of slave liberators turning into Hitler because their nephew wouldn't put out and they didn't sleep well
THE BELLS & TRAUMA -- a thesis by Hubert Q. Neckbeard (proud owner of a complete GoT funko figure collection)
guys my girlfriend didn't want to have sex last night
"Let it be fear, then"
*burns children to death*
*somewhere a neckbeard nods knowingly + begins to pen a reddit post about how this makes sense and he saw all the signs*
Star Wars Time
Damn, I had forgotten all about the bell ringing nonsense. All the people on the ground were yelling for someone to ring the bell, while Jaimie wanders in on his own to ring it.
In a normally functioning war, where the well known signal to surrender is to ring the bell, who’s job was it supposed to be, and where was that guy? If Jaimie hadn’t done it, would the whole city have kept chanting “ring the bell”, with nobody actually doing it?
the bell guy decided not to ring the bell, because he likes new things
man those youtube vids roasting D&D are on fucking point
Arya Stark isnt Arya Stark
r/asoiaf with the most on-point analysis of the show:
(Spoilers Main) I just miss characters talking to one another.
I didn’t watch Season 8 as it aired, at least up until this point. My Dad came back into town and we always watch the show together, so I was waiting for him. Today we watched all 5 of the current episodes of Season 8, back to back.
Honestly, I understand people’s issues with the plot decisions in this season— especially the way the Night King was ultimately handled. The show, as many have already pointed out, has teased this threat since the very start, and it kind of feels like Arya was the only thing that ultimately mattered in the end. Dany’s dragons seemed to barely help in the fight, and the unified forces, while unified, were all seemingly slaughtered.
But I could have forgiven all of this if the battle felt like it meant something. If I could have felt the devastating fallout of such a nearly complete slaughter of the living. If I could have seen Jon reunite with Dany and embrace her, and above all, if I could have heard what it was like for Arya to feel the grip of the night king, what it was like to look into his eyes, what it made her feel.
As it stands, the battle in episode 3 feels utterly inconsequential because we don’t get conversations from this show anymore. We barely get dialogue scenes. We are given the absolute minimum information required to move the plot forward.
Arya and the Hound reunite on their ride to Kings Landing? We don’t get anything but “I’m going to King’s Landing, me too, I don’t expect to be back, me neither.” We don’t learn anything. We don’t get an organic interaction between two people, two people that we know and who know each other. But these aren’t really Arya and the Hound anymore. They’re synopses of their former selves.
In fact, every member of the cast is now the same. Everyone is stoic, and hardened, and self absorbed. Everyone stands around with the same serious grimace. Everyone, including supposed master manipulators, declare their honest intentions to anyone within earshot multiple times.
Events are hardly “foreshadowed”, they are broadcasted in absolute terms. How many times did Tyrion need to say “innocent people will die” even when he had little reason to believe that would be the case, before Dany had even implied she was considering it? Why is every conversation cut short? Every time a character is about to unveil their intentions— the moments when we are supposed to be learning about the characters thought processes, motivations, and emotional experiences, is the scene “dramatically” interrupted by a third party, every single time? Why would I want some gotcha “twist” for Dany’s eventual downward spiral when I could have spent time with her as a character, in the little moments, the ones that remind of what it’s actually like to exist in the world and feel emotions and impulses and deep anger and fear? Why would I want to see Dany make a sour face and make a quip about respect or dragons or rightful queen or something when I could listen to her talk to Jorah about what it feels like to be loved, or feared, or hated? Why can’t these characters doubt themselves anymore? Where’s the humanity?
This show didn’t used to do this. It just feels strikingly amateur now from a writing perspective. It really does feel like they just threw in the towel. Plenty of people have already complained about the logistics of the show, about the choices made at a plot level. But for me, I’m most disappointed by the loss of the syntax of drama that this show used to so expertly harness. Writing is not what happens. It’s how it happens. It’s supposed to stir things in you. It’s not a series of plot points, written one after the other, with scenes that feel like post it notes.
also makes a good point
Tyrion is now a complete idiot who is morally aghast at winning wars with fire.
He was the most clever man in Westeros in S2 who nuked Stannis with wildfire, but I guess he's not that guy anymore. They needed a conduit for the audience being bashed over the head with Daenerys gOiNg MaD and becoming the villain, even though she wasn't acting any different than they would have in previous seasons (prior to the last episode).
Tyrion's dialogue for episode 5:
"If the BELLS r rung, stand down"
"Innocent people will die!"
"You must RING THE BELLS"
"Thousands will die"
Here's Jon's dialogue for any episode of this entire season (pick one):
"[You're / She's] muh queen"
"I don't want it"
just finished 4th episode last night. we have no expectations, but we're still cringing our way through the dialogue. I started playing hearthstone on my phone while watching.
i guess i couldn't follow my own advice and lower my expectations enough to enjoy it.
The friends I’m staying with are rewatching the early seasons
S02e09: Stannis’s ships appear in black water bay. Bells sound inside the Lannister soldiers’ barracks. Everyone knows this is the cue to go to battle
Moments later: Devos’s son speculated that no ships have come to meet their fleet in battle because King’s Landing surrenders
Devos: “I’ve never known bells to mean surrender”
ok im all caught up. that was horrendous. what the fuck is this.
it's still pretty good if you skip past all the parts where people say things only watch the battle scenes & turn your brain off
i yelled at the screen when jack sparrow swam out of the ocean the exact moment that jaime arrived at the secret entrance
he swam to shore to kill one man because he's a psychopath, according to the showrunners
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