$650-750 laptop

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  1. Taket the White

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    nevermind, i was looking at the wrong scores.

    still, if you had the desire to spend say $1200 on a laptop, you could probably take a few of those lower end models and make a killer system by adding an SSD/choice upgrades. I do like the bloatware removal for $15, that's really a big selling point once i start making some real cash one of these days.

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  3. Utumno

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    So the big difference between that and the next step up is the 840m vs 850m video cards - I think there's no question even the 840m is still going to be much better for gaming than any Intel-only graphics. The question is, how good is the 840m for gaming over the next few years?

    I'm having a hard time finding good game benchmarks for that one - probably because it's relatively new.

    http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-840M.105681.0.html

    That webpage would indicate that it may have similar performance to the older 750m card, which would mean it's decent for gaming if you're not playing high settings.
     
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    Aaaand here's someone from Anandtech speculating that the 840m is actually going to be p shitty:

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/7834/nvidia-geforce-800m-lineup-battery-boost

    Really hard to tell without seeing numbers.

    Basically I'd say the next step up (with the 850m) is a safe bet to be a decent gaming performer for the next few years. I'm not sure I'd say the same for the 840m without seeing some actual test numbers (have found none).
     
  5. Taket the White

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    Man, see that's where they got me. I could have sworn I looked up the 840M and compared it to the 750M, and showed that it was significantly better, but they have it right with the 750M on that review and on the comparison sheet from notebookcheck.net, so I guess the 750M is just as good by all accounts.

    It would seem there is a significant jump from 840M to 850M though, and I could get the next jump up from xoticpc which carries that on it for $50 or even the 860M for $50 more than that, too.

    Deciding this shit is never fucking easy.

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  6. Klerick

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    I always look at comps as a 1-2 year investment unless it's easy/cost effective to upgrade. Unless you buy top end all hardware will seem slow when trying to game new stuff coming out.

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    ugh i hate this process

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  8. Marglar

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    the way I see it, you're already making a large cash investment, and just a few hundred more would bump you into range of getting a nicer, more capable graphics card. if you skimp, just be sure you're able to accept that you'll have to run games at reduced resolution and low settings and may still even get bad frame rates at times. if you're just looking to play casual games or older games, it'll be fine.

    1xxx-12xx is really the range where gaming laptops start to become borderline acceptable for performance, imo. even then, there's some compromises at that budget. if you want to game on a budget and could do a desktop instead, you'd be way better off.

    if you have specific games in mind, just look up benchmarks and framerate tests on that particular gpu for that particular game. it paints a pretty clear picture of what to expect.

    another tip I'd suggest.. when setting a lower end gaming laptop budget, opting for the bigger screen is not necessarily a good thing. it will look fantastic and give you more screen space for everyday use, but it takes more gpu to run better resolutions, and you'll likely end up just lowering the games' resolutions regardless.
     
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    Also all relative, I'm not kidding when I say one of my coworkers doesn't consider most sub-$2k rigs "acceptable" performance.

    I'm a game nerd and I believe (without having tried one) that the $950ish range Sagers on that site would be plenty "acceptable" performance for 90% of the games I play now.
     
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    acceptable to me is medium range graphics, running at the displays native resolution, and capable of maintaining 30+ fps. I'm not terribly snobby when it comes to laptops, I lower my expectations because it costs too much to get desktop like performance out of a laptop. the x40 / x50 series are always mid range value based gpus, you want the x60 and up series, if you can afford it, imo.
     
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    I hear you Marglar, I think the reality is i've gotta be ready to spend $1,000 or just fuck it and go with a netbook that might run some games somewhat decently if i turn the graphics way down. I just don't really like the latter option, as I firmly believe that ends up costing money in the long run, so I think it'll have to be $1k now.

    Yeah, really looks like that Sager NP7358 is in the range of everything that's $1300-1500, and they've apparently got decent build quality too, so if i can hear back from one of their dealers and know that i'll get it in under two weeks from when I order it, I'll probably pull the trigger on one of those.

    With that CPU and GPU, and with the mSATA easily accessible, I can probably drag this laptops lifespan out quite awhile the way i figure it.

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  12. Marglar

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    so long as your expectations match up with what you're paying for, you're golden. I've had a couple of friends go out and buy gaming laptops with similar budgets and then they were upset that it wasn't running everything on high at uber frame rates, just wanted to make sure you knew that wouldn't be the case on most games.
     
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    Honestly, I can't rationalize spending $1100 on a laptop right now and I think I'm going to go back to more along the options that Klerick was offering. I found this sucker though, and it seems like it'll be an upgrade from my laptop that just fizzled, and a damn bargain at $629. I know the screen isn't 1080p, but I doubt it will be noticeable at 15inches, and it has by far the most impressive CPU/GPU for it's price range. Really, nothing outside of the $1000 range compares to it from what I've seen.

    Thoughts?

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834231455

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  14. Utumno

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    Again it's back to personal pref. gt740 card will be weak for modern gaming, especially if you're shooting for 3-4 years into the future but if you don't care much about that, then who cares?

    For me, the biggest prob with that laptop is the resolution, but that's a personal requirement because I go apeshit when I try to work on anything less than 900 pixels high (I work with multiple browser windows, terminal windows, documents, etc.) If that's not important to you, then this Asus is fine.

    Price is decent, though not amazing (screen resolution does affect pricing a decent amount.)
     
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    Yeah, i saw the y510p, though it did go down $50 or so from when i last saw it.

    Still, 30% more and do you think i'll be getting 30% more performance out of it?

    EDIT: THat's an honest question btw, the CPU does seem significantly faster than the one i linked earlier despite being the same generation, and that goes along with the full HD and sli w/ better GPUs.

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  17. Utumno

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    To me it's not the CPU that makes that a great deal, in order it's the:

    a) 1080p - as I mentioned before, to me 768 vertical pixels is practically unusable as a laptop - lower than that I'll just buy a tablet or use my phone and attach a keyboard.
    b) Dual GT755 video - seems powerful for that price a machine
    c) Lenovo - they have my favorite keyboards, which is pretty important to me (hate crappy keyboards on laptops)

    All very personal preferences, but yeah if I were in the market for a laptop under a grand I'd probably pick up that one.
     
  18. Taket the White

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    damn you utumno, throwing a hitch in my giddyup like that

    i'm going to go to best buy tomorrow and look at screens myself to see the difference side by side :angry:

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  19. Taket the White

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    is there any legitimate concern in regards to the SLI? I know it used to be sort of a hassle and not worth the trouble in a lot of cases

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