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are discrete sound cards worth it? which ones?
« on: March 26, 2017, 11:53:40 AM »
does anyone have opinions on these
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Re: are discrete sound cards worth it? which ones?
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2017, 11:51:37 PM »
my sound blaster xfi paired with a good pair of sennheiser headphones make for ridiculously good listening.

but unless you've got really great speakers or headphones, the discrete sound card probably isn't going to be a game changer.

Also sound blaster has always had garbage software so I probably would not but them again.  there are cheaper/better sound card options (I'd probably look at some Amazon reviews and cross check with review articles)

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Re: are discrete sound cards worth it? which ones?
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2017, 08:22:02 AM »
you notice the difference, i take it?

and yeah i've read that rlly good speakers and/or headphones are necessary for the sound card to be worthwhile

it also sounds like nice motherboards (which mine probably qualifies as) tend to have pretty decent on-board sound so the delta will likely be smaller than if i had my old shit PC or something

a # of the audio ppl at tom's hardware were basically advising individuals not to purchase sound cards unless they know they're audiophiles and know they'll notice the improvement, or if they produce music or something. i dick around w/ this 88 key keyboard at home & im slowly learning to use this DAWS for makin music but who knows how long i'll keep at it or if my level of enthusiasm justifies a discrete card purchase

i guess an ok card + speakers would be like $300-$500 together? im rlly curious if the difference would be noticeable. i have for example noticed some soft white noise coming out've my current cheapo ($10 usb) speakers + mobo sound whenever i do anything computationally fancy. ive read that that may be due to the mobo sound picking up electrical noise from other components and that  asound card may not have the same problem but idk
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Re: are discrete sound cards worth it? which ones?
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2017, 07:09:01 PM »
"are discrete sound cards worth it?"

you tell me, KID



anything less than the Creative Soundblaster Pro 2.0 Xtreme Opus paired with a Voodoo 3D Banshee 2MB to play the latest state of the art 32-bit video games is just CHILD'S PLAY

if you want to FEEL THE POWER of blast processing, you better upgrade to the NEXT LEVEL


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Re: are discrete sound cards worth it? which ones?
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2017, 05:38:54 PM »
awesome.
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Re: are discrete sound cards worth it? which ones?
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2017, 09:08:33 PM »
i see myself in those 2 brave lads
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Re: are discrete sound cards worth it? which ones?
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2017, 09:33:59 PM »
that's John Romero & John Carmack, so you could do a lot worse

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Re: are discrete sound cards worth it? which ones?
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2017, 10:48:32 PM »
that's John Romero & John Carmack, so you could do a lot worse

holy shit i didn't realize it was them.... that's hilarious

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Re: are discrete sound cards worth it? which ones?
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2017, 09:19:58 AM »
is it just me or does listening 2 different sound cards play DOOM sound on my integrated single sound card not make very much sense

this is clearly a flawed test of DOOM sounds


& there4 cannot answer ym question

is da discrete sound carda worth it ????
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Re: are discrete sound cards worth it? which ones?
« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2017, 01:13:35 PM »
that's John Romero & John Carmack, so you could do a lot worse

holy shit i didn't realize it was them.... that's hilarious
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Re: are discrete sound cards worth it? which ones?
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2017, 12:55:32 AM »
So my Soundblaster Z just died (I looooooved the sound quality with my Sennheiser cans, but drivers gave me a lot of problems and it finally just shit itself after a power outage.)

I bought this after reading reviews - my first external DAC/AMP - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LP3AMC2

Sounds fuckin great.

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Re: are discrete sound cards worth it? which ones?
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2017, 11:26:35 AM »
i've been reading that external DACs are generally preferable to internal sound cards. a bit disappointing bc i want my pc to LOOK REALLY KEWL WITH ALL THE CARDS but it makes sense

do you need nice speakers to complement the DAC?
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Re: are discrete sound cards worth it? which ones?
« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2017, 04:47:16 PM »
i get the sense that most high-end speakers already contain DACs

so maybe the answer is u just spend money on speakers and fuck the cards/DACs????

????

utumno when i didnt answer tayrn's question in gd u called me out but now ur not answering my question tech heads is filled with hypocrites and u should all be banned
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Re: are discrete sound cards worth it? which ones?
« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2017, 10:36:18 PM »
i have pretty crappy speakers but the headset i use is pretty nice and i the sound w/this DAC is p amazing.

I have Sennheiser pc 363d

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Re: are discrete sound cards worth it? which ones?
« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2017, 08:41:26 AM »
i think i'd rather buy uber speakers than an uber headset
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Re: are discrete sound cards worth it? which ones?
« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2017, 08:25:04 PM »
i think i'd rather buy uber speakers than an uber headset
in a world where I had infinite money and lived alone where I could turn my shit up without any thought, I'd say the same thing

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Re: are discrete sound cards worth it? which ones?
« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2017, 08:32:52 PM »
i think i can get away with it

floors seem to be pretty thick concrete in my building, and my room sits on the corner of the 10th floor so i have minimal immediate exposure to other apartments
Irony punctuation is any proposed form of notation used to denote irony or sarcasm in text. Written English lacks a standard way to mark irony, and several forms of punctuation have been proposed. Among the oldest and most frequently attested are the percontation point proposed by English printer Henry Denham in the 1580s, and the irony mark, used by Marcellin Jobard and French poet Alcanter de Brahm during the 19th century. Both marks take the form of a reversed question mark, "⸮".