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Spamalot / Re: incest anime
« on: August 23, 2014, 10:50:27 PM »
do you have siblings.

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General Dissuation / Re: Lightadam
« on: August 23, 2014, 12:10:26 PM »
ok the voice thing makes more sense

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General Dissuation / Re: "Kafka-esque" Comcast CS Call
« on: August 23, 2014, 10:52:37 AM »
Still isn't in the employee guide.  Everything your teachers cover when you're in college is in the book?

pretty sure no one cares about what's actually in the guidebook and taket was pretty clearly just making a quip about how untrustworthy Comcast is but grats on winning that point :huh:

Anyway I have hard time imagining a context that makes that call sound much closer to acceptable. People should not have to say "just cancel it" more than three times no matter how much of a dick he is about it.

If you wanna talk about context let's talk about all the shady shit Comcast probably did to that guy to drive him to be such a dick on the part of the call you're claiming he didn't include.

Also if that were the case I imagine Comcast would want to release/leak the rest of the call to make themselves look better.


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General Dissuation / Re: Lightadam
« on: August 23, 2014, 12:28:37 AM »
you all can't be serious

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Came in fully expecting Qualinesti to have made a legitimate response

Hey buddy just what are you trying to get at here?

That Qualinesti's posts are usually borderline retarded and I was surprised he joined the combo instead of trying to argue with Murphy or sort of agreeing with him or something

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Came in fully expecting Qualinesti to have made a legitimate response

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General Dissuation / Re: "Kafka-esque" Comcast CS Call
« on: August 21, 2014, 09:33:27 PM »
It's not at all overcomplicated.

It really is though, because there are plenty of examples of people getting fucked despite following these sorts of laws.

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Over-complicating a simple matter doesn't make for a strong argument either Taket. 

I meant the argument that Comcast's recording the convo qualifies as consent of the CS rep, not the law

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General Dissuation / Re: "Kafka-esque" Comcast CS Call
« on: August 21, 2014, 06:30:23 PM »
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Who must give permission to record a telephone or in-person conversation?

Federal law permits recording telephone calls and in-person conversations with the consent of at least one of the parties. See 18 U.S.C. 2511(2)(d). This is called a "one-party consent" law. Under a one-party consent law, you can record a phone call or conversation so long as you are a party to the conversation. Furthermore, if you are not a party to the conversation, a "one-party consent" law will allow you to record the conversation or phone call so long as your source consents and has full knowledge that the communication will be recorded.

In addition to federal law, thirty-eight states and the District of Columbia have adopted "one-party consent" laws and permit individuals to record phone calls and conversations to which they are a party or when one party to the communication consents. See the State Law: Recording section of this legal guide for information on state wiretapping laws.

When must you get permission from everyone involved before recording?

Eleven states require the consent of every party to a phone call or conversation in order to make the recording lawful. These "two-party consent" laws have been adopted in California, Connecticut, Florida, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Montana, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania and Washington. (Notes: (1) Illinois' two-party consent statute was held unconstitutional in 2014; (2) Hawai'i is in general a one-party state, but requires two-party consent if the recording device is installed in a private place; (3) Massachusetts bans "secret" recordings rather than requiring explicit consent from all parties.). Although they are referred to as "two-party consent" laws, consent must be obtained from every party to a phone call or conversation if it involves more than two people.  In some of these states, it might be enough if all parties to the call or conversation know that you are recording and proceed with the communication anyway, even if they do not voice explicit consent. See the State Law: Recording section of this legal guide for information on specific states' wiretapping laws.

Only eleven states would require you to have the CS person's consent under any circumstance, so you would be wrong in 39 out of 50 cases, Tucc.

I can't find anything anywhere about whether one person's recording the conversation implies their consent to have the conversation recorded by another person. But since the verbiage of the law seems to be of the form "consent to be recorded" without mention of which party in the conversation is recording, I would suppose that it does. IE if you're recording the conversation, you consent "to be recorded" because *you're recording*.

It's not at all overcomplicated.

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General Dissuation / Re: Opinions on the Zoe Quinn stuff?
« on: August 21, 2014, 02:30:16 PM »
I more or less agree with taket

It sounds like she might be a terrible person (I didn't read the thing) and that the dude was probably justifiably enraged with her or whatever, but that doesn't make posting her nudes all over the internet without her consent not a shitty thing to do

and I have zero doubt that the blowback she's gotten since has crossed the line of being sexist and misogynistic

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General Dissuation / Re: Concerto, in A minor.
« on: August 21, 2014, 01:30:47 PM »

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General Dissuation / Re: "Kafka-esque" Comcast CS Call
« on: August 21, 2014, 12:51:27 PM »
100% of the time for me as soon as I told the customer I would end the call and do not give my consent they would stop or at least say they were not recording me any longer.  This happened to me probably 5 or so times in the 2 years that I worked in the call center.  I never had a customer give me a problem after. 

That's not evidence of anything though, really--the customers probably don't know how the law applies in that scenario, either.

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General Dissuation / Re: No thread on the Ferguson riots huh
« on: August 21, 2014, 10:46:09 AM »
Also KB, what does the amount of times they shot him really have to do with it? it's pretty easy to fire 6 shots quickly, especially if you're scared for your own life, and short of reloading/shooting him execution style/etc, I never found that argument compelling.

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Because there's a difference between a non-lethal take down shot and wildly emptying half a clip into someone.  The difference is whether the police officer was attempting to subdue a suspect or outright murder them.  If you really can't see the difference or why it would have an impact on the case then you should probably go sit with Fais. :(
Also KB, what does the amount of times they shot him really have to do with it? it's pretty easy to fire 6 shots quickly, especially if you're scared for your own life, and short of reloading/shooting him execution style/etc, I never found that argument compelling.

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Because there's a difference between a non-lethal take down shot and wildly emptying half a clip into someone.  The difference is whether the police officer was attempting to subdue a suspect or outright murder them.  If you really can't see the difference or why it would have an impact on the case then you should probably go sit with Fais. :(

If you're shooting someone, it goes without saying that you're not attempting a 'non-lethal take down' though. Argue about whether or not he should have shot him in the first place, for gods sake our cops are *WAY* too trigger happy in too many scenarios, but if someone is charging at a cop with a weapon then shooting him 6 times isn't anything to be shocked or upset about. And to expect them to apply a non-lethal take down with a handgun is silly, and shows a lack of understanding how quickly you can unload 6 rounds, how hard it is to know whether or not you've actually hit the person, and the fact police do have the right to be scared and act accordingly in some respect.

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it's almost like no one read my posts in this thread :hmm:

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General Dissuation / Re: Fermi Paradox breakdown
« on: August 20, 2014, 10:25:05 AM »
I am wholly sympathetic to the concern that by the time someone has come up with a legitimate new high-output/renewable alternative energy source--assuming one is possible--we won't have enough energy left to actually access/produce it because of our current wastefulness, though.

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General Dissuation / Re: Fermi Paradox breakdown
« on: August 20, 2014, 10:22:04 AM »
Yep, totally agree with you, and is exactly where I am coming from in my early post in this thread.  There really isn't even any research on the "edges" of science to believe this isn't true. ...But there isn't anything in our science that says we can "get off this rock." 

that is demonstrably false

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General Dissuation / Re: stopped by a cop on the way to lunch
« on: August 19, 2014, 09:45:33 PM »

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General Dissuation / Re: stopped by a cop on the way to lunch
« on: August 19, 2014, 08:46:55 PM »
I agree except on any road with a bike lane

Why should I have to trust asshole drivers not to be texting while coming up behind me? I wanna see that shit coming

Also I understand the not-riding-on-the-sidewalk in, like, NYC, or if you're one of those bikes that legitimately rides at the speed of city traffic (which a lot--if not most--riders have neither the ability nor inclination to do, I think) and gets a kick out of narrowly missing every other living thing you ride past

but for casual bikers on the vast majority of streets I think

a) the likelihood of me hitting a pedestrian is less than the likelihood of a car hitting me
b) the likelihood of either participant dying in the event of a bike-on-pedestrian crash is less than in the case of a car-on-bike crash


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General Dissuation / Re: stopped by a cop on the way to lunch
« on: August 19, 2014, 08:27:22 PM »
I also kinda hate bicyclers

I think the whole let's-pretend-bikes-are-cars thing is fucking stupid, which is why no one follows it, and that simultaneous expectation that people are going to follow it side-by-side with the fact that very few people do is what leads to most problems between bicycles and cars

I base this on nothing but wild conjecture but I am abundantly certain that it is accurate

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General Dissuation / Re: stopped by a cop on the way to lunch
« on: August 19, 2014, 08:11:16 PM »
I hate one way streets

when I'm driving

but I love them when I'm walking or bicycling

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http://www.buzzfeed.com/kevintang/painfully-talented-illustrators-on-pixiv

I know--buzzfeed--but most of the artists legitimately are killer.

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General Dissuation / Re: stopped by a cop on the way to lunch
« on: August 19, 2014, 05:34:21 PM »
www.clickhole.com/article/know-your-rights-things-keep-mind-when-dealing-pol-616


We rely on the police to keep us safe, but let’s face it: We can’t always rely on them to tell us our full rights. Here are a few things to keep in mind during your next run-in with the law:

1. A police officer on a horse cannot arrest or fine you if you are also on a horse.

2. If you challenge a cop to a race, he legally has to race you. If you beat him, you are the cop.

3. If you’re eating a bag of pretzels and pass by a police officer, you’re not obligated to offer him one, although it certainly would be a nice thing to do.

4. If you forfeit your right to remain silent, make sure you say “off the record” before revealing anything incriminating.

5. If you get arrested, ask to sit in the front seat. You’re not a fucking child and you deserve respect.

6. If you ask police officers if they’ve ever tried weed, they have to say “no,” but they can wink after saying it.

7. If a police officer asks to cut in while you’re dancing with a partner, it is legal for you to cut back in at the top of the next hour.

8. If you punch a cop, he gets to punch you back—but then you’re even.

9. If you see a cop whose uniform is all red, that means he’s evil and will help you with crimes! Make use of his expertise and long, sharp fingers.

10. If you’re stopped by a police officer, simply answer any questions truthfully and try not to remember that he could beat you to death with absolutely no consequences.


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General Dissuation / Re: No thread on the Ferguson riots huh
« on: August 19, 2014, 05:32:18 PM »
Sorry but I don't care if the kid was charging -- that's not an excuse to empty half a clip into him.

The flip side of this coin--I'm told--is that there's supposedly a lot of legal precedent establishing that *if* an officer fires and doesn't kill, it's almost certainly unjustified use of force--basically if he had enough control of his aim that he was able to inflict non-lethal damage intentionally rather than just firing belligerently, he can't have been in enough fear for his life to justify drawing his gun to begin with.

It's fucking idiotic if that's true, but, well, there it is.

It still doesn't explain why he wouldn't've used a tazer or mace or--ya know, anything else, though.

Anyway I still think the aftermath is the more important thing for the nation to be focusing on. Not that justice in the case that sparked it is unimportant or anything.

But I think the militaristic police response, the silencing of the press and the fact that the community felt so marginalized and persecuted that their response was this drastic matter regardless of whether the cop was justified in this case or not.




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General Dissuation / Re: If minimum wages, why not maximum wages?
« on: August 19, 2014, 02:04:27 PM »
no, that makes no fucking sense at all

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General Dissuation / Re: sepak takraw
« on: August 19, 2014, 12:07:44 PM »
Yeah I dunno if I'd actually sit and watch much of it because all sports are boring to watch

but it's impressive as fuck, at any rate. I'd love to learn to play it, but I have no idea how you'd even begin to practice some shit like that.

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General Dissuation / Re: No thread on the Ferguson riots huh
« on: August 18, 2014, 08:01:27 PM »
I don't think it matters what happened with Brown and the cop.

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Spamalot / Re: Im on an anime bender
« on: August 18, 2014, 03:16:24 PM »
it's a pretty good resource for streaming anime in general

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Spamalot / Re: Im on an anime bender
« on: August 18, 2014, 03:16:04 PM »
watch cartoon online dot com has every episode of gintama, it looks like

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General Dissuation / sepak takraw
« on: August 18, 2014, 12:32:20 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sepak_takraw

Sepak Takraw Sport In Thailand


It's like someone took soccer and made it not shitty and boring + left all the cool parts

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General Dissuation / Re: Fermi Paradox breakdown
« on: August 18, 2014, 10:45:53 AM »
Enjoyed the article.

"paradox" is a little bit of a misnomer when there are so many possible explanations--I went into the article expecting them to fail to cover all the bases, but they did a good job.

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General Dissuation / Re: "Kafka-esque" Comcast CS Call
« on: August 18, 2014, 10:40:56 AM »
And like taket said, if it does, it obviously shouldn't.

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