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Re: Banks suck and sh*t is f**ked up bs
« Reply #240 on: October 15, 2011, 09:08:12 PM »
However, I would argue that the indirect bailouts like that GSE 900 billion and artificially low interest rates could be called bailouts for WS.

really? why?

I too would like to know the answer to this. CEQ, do you mean to say that banks profit from low interest rates?

I was under the impression that the low interest rates were supposed to increase lending but that the banks were just taking the money and buying treasuries.  Basically make some decent risk free coin on the spread while keeping lending tight. 

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Re: Banks suck and sh*t is f**ked up bs
« Reply #241 on: October 15, 2011, 09:39:49 PM »
We are so post modern bro.

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Re: Banks suck and sh*t is f**ked up bs
« Reply #242 on: October 15, 2011, 09:40:37 PM »
Oh -- I didn't even realize there was something in there about low interest rates; I certainly agree about that. I was asking why / how you think the GSE bailouts could be considered Wallstreet bailouts.
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Re: Banks suck and sh*t is f**ked up bs
« Reply #243 on: October 16, 2011, 01:43:07 AM »


This poll shows that most people want higher taxes, again.  Thanks for the backup.



This poll asks a leading question: Do you think that the government should redistribute wealth by heavily taxing the rich?  "Redistributing wealth" has negative connotations.  However, when you ask people an unbiased question with actual specifics, like "Should we increase taxes on people who make more than $250,000 a year," the majority of people say yes.  I don't have to find any statistics because I already posted them.



In that poll, more independents want to raise taxes to fix the problem than cut the programs.

So basically nothing you posted does anything to help you and in fact boosts my points.

I have a question for you bro: you retarded?



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Re: Banks suck and sh*t is f**ked up bs
« Reply #244 on: October 16, 2011, 02:01:05 AM »
entitlement also has negative connotations with it.
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Re: Banks suck and sh*t is f**ked up bs
« Reply #245 on: October 16, 2011, 02:17:00 AM »
helping the poor vs handouts for welfare queens

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Re: Banks suck and sh*t is f**ked up bs
« Reply #246 on: October 16, 2011, 02:52:58 AM »
Occupy Pensacola, eye witness report:

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=196033

It's a group of very *****ed-off ordinary citizens who ... know damn well they got serially screwed, but they're not sure exactly how. 
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Re: Banks suck and sh*t is f**ked up bs
« Reply #247 on: October 16, 2011, 03:10:35 AM »
Wow, reading the news and it seems this movement is growing. I would like all my negative comments redacted so when you commies take over I won't be sent to some gulag.

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Re: Banks suck and sh*t is f**ked up bs
« Reply #248 on: October 16, 2011, 03:36:52 AM »


This poll shows that most people want higher taxes, again.  Thanks for the backup.


Of National Adults:

48% answered with "only" or "mostly" spending cuts
11% answered with "only" or "mostly" tax increases
37% answered equally between the two

This is a 1 to 5 scale question. The Republican, Total Average, and Independent lean are all much stronger towards spending cuts over tax increases.

You ask me if I'm retarded yet fail at grasping something a child could read. Math coursework, bro.

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This poll asks a leading question: Do you think that the government should redistribute wealth by heavily taxing the rich?  "Redistributing wealth" has negative connotations.  However, when you ask people an unbiased question with actual specifics, like "Should we increase taxes on people who make more than $250,000 a year," the majority of people say yes.  I don't have to find any statistics because I already posted them.


Really grasping for straws here -- "redistributing wealth" has negative connotations? Right... that sure is a convenient dismissal.

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In that poll, more independents want to raise taxes to fix the problem than cut the programs.


And the overwhelming majority of every group agrees that the cost of programs will create major economic problems. Supporting the current state of social security and medicare does constitute a very-far-left stance on that set of issues.

You carefully worded it so that you leave yourself open to what I guess would be "minor fixes", but I've read your posts here where you back them. Libby McLiberalson.



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So basically nothing you posted does anything to help you and in fact boosts my points.

I have a question for you bro: you retarded?


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Re: Banks suck and sh*t is f**ked up bs
« Reply #249 on: October 16, 2011, 03:58:29 AM »
Searyx you should know that the phrasing of a question is very important the language used affects the responses, you shouldn't mock that.

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Re: Banks suck and sh*t is f**ked up bs
« Reply #250 on: October 16, 2011, 04:52:20 AM »
Then of course the phrasing of the question for anything I post will be wrong or have "negative connotations". I can do the same with anything he posts.


Which is Exhibit A of why politics debate is fucking retarded.

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Re: Banks suck and sh*t is f**ked up bs
« Reply #251 on: October 16, 2011, 06:39:25 AM »
Then of course the phrasing of the question for anything I post will be wrong or have "negative connotations". I can do the same with anything he posts.


Which is Exhibit A of why politics debate is fucking retarded.

don't be a fucking idiot searyx.  i know it's fun for you to retreat into your "nobody knows" shell but, bro, telling yourself that doesn't make it true.


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Re: Banks suck and sh*t is f**ked up bs
« Reply #252 on: October 16, 2011, 08:06:27 AM »
Why does the Gallup poll only offer mixes of spending cuts and tax increases as the way to cure the deficit?  Hasn't the Republican strategy for the past decade been that lower taxes will solve the deficit problem?

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Re: Banks suck and sh*t is f**ked up bs
« Reply #253 on: October 16, 2011, 08:18:04 AM »
Then of course the phrasing of the question for anything I post will be wrong or have "negative connotations". I can do the same with anything he posts.


Which is Exhibit A of why politics debate is fucking retarded.

First point: it doesnt invalidate stuff but its something to consider

2nd point: agreed.

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Re: Banks suck and sh*t is f**ked up bs
« Reply #254 on: October 16, 2011, 12:39:14 PM »
If you assume that everyone you argue with will argue in bad faith, of course it's retarded.

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Re: Banks suck and sh*t is f**ked up bs
« Reply #255 on: October 16, 2011, 12:41:18 PM »
Like I don't understand how "that argument could be used in this other hypothetical context where it would be inappropriate" negates an argument's use in a legitimate context.

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Re: Banks suck and sh*t is f**ked up bs
« Reply #256 on: October 16, 2011, 01:41:26 PM »

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Re: Banks suck and sh*t is f**ked up bs
« Reply #257 on: October 17, 2011, 06:49:25 AM »
If you assume that everyone you argue with will argue in bad faith, of course it's retarded.

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Re: Banks suck and sh*t is f**ked up bs
« Reply #258 on: October 17, 2011, 04:57:36 PM »
Also for the LOL hippies crowd, take a second look at Gildis' link.

Now I'm no huge fan of Karl D. (I actually agree with lots of stuff he says but he is so over-the-top and consistently negative that I have a hard time taking him seriously)  But I'll see he is more consistently true to what the Tea Party *says* they were about than almost any other big name Tea Party rep out there (almost all of which have devolved into various degrees of how-backwards-can-we-get angry rhetoric).

And Karl D. seems pretty excited about OWS, and in that link specifically refutes the claim that this is just a bunch of latte-sipping hippies as the mainstream media loves to portray:  http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=196033

Good job Karl, thanks for not being a complete nutjob.

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Re: Banks suck and sh*t is f**ked up bs
« Reply #259 on: October 17, 2011, 06:23:39 PM »
"I hope we shall crush ... in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country." -- Thomas Jefferson, 1816

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Re: Banks suck and sh*t is f**ked up bs
« Reply #260 on: October 17, 2011, 07:17:00 PM »
judging from CEQ's table linked in a prior thread that graphic seems rather misleading; 14.7T may have been the maximum funds at risk in bailing out wallstreet but it's vastly larger than what we might expect not to be repaid
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Re: Banks suck and sh*t is f**ked up bs
« Reply #261 on: October 17, 2011, 07:24:17 PM »
Most people in the Tea Party are stupid.
Most people that bitch about the Tea Party are stupid.
Most people in OWS are stupid.
Most people that bitch about OWS are stupid.

Both movements grew because of genuine problems with the way the U.S. goverment works, even if most participants didn't really understand what they were protesting.  Tea Party has been successful so far at bringing changes to the way things are done.  OWS may have the same effect. 

Both groups could probably find some common ground to reduce the level of power that corporations and special interest lobbies hold in the current system.

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Re: Banks suck and sh*t is f**ked up bs
« Reply #262 on: October 17, 2011, 09:11:54 PM »
basically america is a bad country

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Re: Banks suck and sh*t is f**ked up bs
« Reply #263 on: October 17, 2011, 11:33:43 PM »
basically america is a bad country

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Re: Banks suck and sh*t is f**ked up bs
« Reply #264 on: October 17, 2011, 11:34:13 PM »
it starts with the white and works down to the brown.

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Re: Banks suck and sh*t is f**ked up bs
« Reply #265 on: October 18, 2011, 03:03:40 AM »
Full of bad.

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Re: Banks suck and sh*t is f**ked up bs
« Reply #266 on: October 18, 2011, 01:19:31 PM »
I don't seem to be able to make it a direct link, but a good clip:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/44935992#44935992
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Re: Banks suck and sh*t is f**ked up bs
« Reply #268 on: October 22, 2011, 04:46:13 PM »
Banks 'Livid' at Occupy Wall Street support by Democrats
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Re: Banks suck and sh*t is f**ked up bs
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